A Playoff question: Campbell or Collins?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Todd certainly is entitled to lots of praise; he's played about as well as one could hope and has greatly exceeded expectations. But, given his limited playing time during the regular season, I think it's probably a good idea to temper our expectations. He looks damn good and may continue to look good, but it's highly doubtful he will continue to post 100+ QB ratings.

I guess I've just seen us fans get sky high when we see cause for hope and then get depressed when things don't work out exactly how we wanted them to. I'm guardedly optimistic about Todd and, more generally, our offense's future.

He's playing so damn well though. There isn't much weakness in his play right now and there isn't much I can see that would change that. It all depends on the players around him - more specifically the line, but they have also been playing great. He has more than enough weapons to throw to right now - even Portis seems to be getting in the mix more.

From a realistic point of view, I think things should continue as they have been, offensively - unless an opposing team wins the battle in the so-called trenches. But like I said the line has found its rhythm and finally jelled the way we wanted them to for so long. It's weird because this is the year that there seems to be the most injuries along the oline.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Todd certainly is entitled to lots of praise; he's played about as well as one could hope and has greatly exceeded expectations. But, given his limited playing time during the regular season, I think it's probably a good idea to temper our expectations. He looks damn good and may continue to look good, but it's highly doubtful he will continue to post 100+ QB ratings.

I guess I've just seen us fans get sky high when we see cause for hope and then get depressed when things don't work out exactly how we wanted them to. I'm guardedly optimistic about Todd and, more generally, our offense's future.

Im a skeptic too...but..he's a cowboys killer...whatcha think now?

SKINS ROCK!!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Im a skeptic too...but..he's a cowboys killer...whatcha think now?

SKINS ROCK!!

I think he's earned the unquestionable right to start for quite some time. Another damn impressive showing and he's changed my cautiously optimistic attitude into a positively thrilled one.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I realize that the backup QB is usually the most popular man in Washington, D.C., but is anyone else reluctant to crown TC as a great QB? I really like what he has done in 2 of the 3 games in which he's played, but I'm still skeptical. If he plays lights out football against Dallas' starters and in the postseason, my opinion will change. Until then, I think it is too early to write the book on TC.

I remember collins coming in his first year and stinking it up in the preseason and everyone wanted to cut him, and I cant help but keep thinking that there is some reason the guy hasn't earned a starting job anywhere in over a decade in the league.

Again, I have to reiterate that I am extremely impressed and pleased with his performance so far. I'm downright thankful for it, actually, and am NOT in any way attacking the guy or discrediting his recent accomplisments...

Im just trying to look at his entire body of work and place it in our current situation. I personally think TC is a younger version of the QB we'll probably be seeing a bit of this weekend... BJ himself.. A wiley vet that will play well when needed but doesn't quite have what it takes to be a consistent starting QB anymore. I may be wrong, but that's the feeling I get. I speculate that there will be a team with a decent enough secondary to cover our guys that will have a pass rush that's effective and we'll be crying for mobile QB.


I also really want Campbell to get an opportunity to play in a big game if he's healthy and we're still alive. He worked very hard to help this team get into this situation, and I know he made some mistakes, but he's a young QB. I'd like to see him get some big game experience.

[rk3025]

I remember Collins being the only quarterback to pass for a touchdown in preseason and they said that don't count
Campbell is Gibb's man and Saunders can have a token 2nd for now

Originally Posted by canthetuna

I remember collins coming in his first year and stinking it up in the preseason and everyone wanted to cut him, and I cant help but keep thinking that there is some reason the guy hasn't earned a starting job anywhere in over a decade in the league.

Again, I have to reiterate that I am extremely impressed and pleased with his performance so far. I'm downright thankful for it, actually, and am NOT in any way attacking the guy or discrediting his recent accomplisments...

Im just trying to look at his entire body of work and place it in our current situation. I personally think TC is a younger version of the QB we'll probably be seeing a bit of this weekend... BJ himself.. A wiley vet that will play well when needed but doesn't quite have what it takes to be a consistent starting QB anymore. I may be wrong, but that's the feeling I get. I speculate that there will be a team with a decent enough secondary to cover our guys that will have a pass rush that's effective and we'll be crying for mobile QB.


I also really want Campbell to get an opportunity to play in a big game if he's healthy and we're still alive. He worked very hard to help this team get into this situation, and I know he made some mistakes, but he's a young QB. I'd like to see him get some big game experience.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by rk3025

I remember Collins being the only quarterback to pass for a touchdown in preseason and they said that don't count
Campbell is Gibb's man and Saunders can have a token 2nd for now

That was this year's preseason. canthetuna was talking about last year's preseason (Collins's first with the team).

[NinjaLink]

The critics say that if the Redskins defeat the Cowboys to get into the playoffs, Campbell will be practicing the following week. I have no clue if Campbell will be back in the starting lineup. It is the coaches decision. With the success that we are having with Collins, I rather keep him in.

[redsk1]

Collins has to stay in there.

I guess the real question is...if Collins stinks it up and we get a win anyhow what will happen then?

I guess that's why coaches get paid the big bucks. I imagine JG would stick w/ Collins.

FWIW i think Collins will have a good game.

[CPAlltheWay012]

IF Campbell does play in the postseason (assuming we make it) I really hope watching Todd Collins run a successful offense has rubbed off on him...

that would be our best bet i think

[DieHardSkinsFan777]

The hot hand that got us where we are at. Collins

[jsarno]

Collins is smart...he doesn't have the overall tools, but intelligence is more important in this offense, so stick with Collins.

[BigSKINBauer]

Edit: Wrong thread in all the excitement

[skinsnut]

This is such a no brainer now that the skins went 4-0 and killed the cowgirls.
Todd Collins.

in fact, some may suggest he start next year (if we can keep him)
I am not suggesting that, unless we need to keep an open competition in preseason in order to keep this guy on the roster

[GTripp0012]

Honestly, I think Todd Collins has earned himself a multi-year deal to compete for a starting job somewhere else. I doubt he will be back next year.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Honestly, I think Todd Collins has earned himself a multi-year deal to compete for a starting job somewhere else. I doubt he will be back next year.

I don't think Collins will be highly sought after unless Saunders comes with him.
That being said, I am all for him competing for the starting job HERE next year...competition never hurt anyone, and Campbell could use some quality bench learning.