Goodbye Doughty, Hello Horton!

[Dirtbag59]

The one reason that Horton can't start from my POV is his jersey number. What type of safety wheres 48? We need to get him a cool number, maybe he could trade with Brooks for 14.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Doughty is an average safety. From what I've seen, so is Horton.

Doughty has been on this team for a few years, and he's still average. Horton has potential, and we need to see what's there. IMO, Horton should start until he shows otherwise. I just don't see much (if any) drop-off by replacing Doughty with Horton.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Doughty is an average safety. From what I've seen, so is Horton.

Doughty has been on this team for a few years, and he's still average. Horton has potential, and we need to see what's there. IMO, Horton should start until he shows otherwise. I just don't see much (if any) drop-off by replacing Doughty with Horton.

Considering Doughty is almost completely deaf, his “average play” should be considered well above average in my opinion. The man has accomplished a lot. I'll give him that...

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Doughty is an average safety. From what I've seen, so is Horton.

Doughty has been on this team for a few years, and he's still average. Horton has potential, and we need to see what's there. IMO, Horton should start until he shows otherwise. I just don't see much (if any) drop-off by replacing Doughty with Horton.

I agree. Horton is a ROOKIE and is looking comparable to Doughty if not better. So that is a good thing. He has upside and will only get better. Doughty is a veteran and propbably has reached his peak. Plus I think Horton has more speed and is more of a ballhawk which was evident in Saints game.

[MTK]

Zorn said in his presser that Doughty will be back in the starting lineup on Sunday.

"I don't know if [Horton] is ready yet to step in there every week and say he's a starter," Zorn said. "Reed Doughty is a guy that can get people lined up. There will be much more complicates situations that [Horton] would have to perform in to say that he is going to be the starter. But he certainly helped us have confidence in putting him in situations."

Zorn on Injuries, Special Teams - Redskins Insider

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Zorn said in his presser that Doughty will be back in the starting lineup on Sunday.



Zorn on Injuries, Special Teams - Redskins Insider

I don't really believe him. Plus, he's kinda vague. He says Doughty can, "Get guys lined up." Big deal. So can Fletcher. Either way, get somebody else to, "Get guys lined up," -- or, better yet, get everyone to know their position on their own. Sounds like Zorn is just trying to avoid answering the question, and giving some bullshit excuse to keep Doughty in.

Game changing plays are hard to come by, and I can't remember a single one Doughty has made in all the time he's been on this team. Before week 1, if you told me that Horton would finish the season with 2 INTs and a fumble recovery, I would have been happy. Hell, he's already done that in one game.

I understand the plays were easy, and he'll have bad games. I just don't see any valid argument for starting Doughty.

Does anyone here even think Doughty would finish the season with 2 INTs and a fumble recovery, if he starts the remaining games? I don't.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I don't really believe him. Plus, he's kinda vague. He says Doughty can, "Get guys lined up." Big deal. So can Fletcher. Either way, get somebody else to, "Get guys lined up," -- or, better yet, get everyone to know their position on their own. Sounds like Zorn is just trying to avoid answering the question, and giving some bullshit excuse to keep Doughty in.

Game changing plays are hard to come by, and I can't remember a single one Doughty has made in all the time he's been on this team. Before week 1, if you told me that Horton would finish the season with 2 INTs and a fumble recovery, I would have been happy. Hell, he's already done that in one game.

I understand the plays were easy, and he'll have bad games. I just don't see any valid argument for starting Doughty.

Does anyone here even think Doughty would finish the season with 2 INTs and a fumble recovery, if he starts the remaining games? I don't.

I think all we need to know is right here:

"There will be much more complicated situations that [Horton] would have to perform in to say that he is going to be the starter. But he certainly helped us have confidence in putting him in situations."

Translation: good game but we need to see more of him before he's handed the job.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think all we need to know is right here:



Translation: good game but we need to see more of him before he's handed the job.

I don't think there's really any problem with that logic. Now if Doughty plays like scheisse the next few weeks and no change is made, that would be another issue.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think all we need to know is right here:



Translation: good game but we need to see more of him before he's handed the job.

Greg Blache was asked about Horton replacing Doughty on Redskins Postgame Live last night and he said that they will look at the film and make the decision from there, but he also a said that they have to get their most productive players on the field hinting that Horton is either going to start or play a lot next week. Honestly, I don't think Jim Zorn has any clue about what's going on with the defense because obviously he leaves that up to Blache. So I am going to believe Blache's statments more than Zorn's when it comes to the defense.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I don't really believe him. Plus, he's kinda vague. He says Doughty can, "Get guys lined up." Big deal. So can Fletcher. Either way, get somebody else to, "Get guys lined up," -- or, better yet, get everyone to know their position on their own. Sounds like Zorn is just trying to avoid answering the question, and giving some bullshit excuse to keep Doughty in.

Game changing plays are hard to come by, and I can't remember a single one Doughty has made in all the time he's been on this team. Before week 1, if you told me that Horton would finish the season with 2 INTs and a fumble recovery, I would have been happy. Hell, he's already done that in one game.

I understand the plays were easy, and he'll have bad games. I just don't see any valid argument for starting Doughty.

Does anyone here even think Doughty would finish the season with 2 INTs and a fumble recovery, if he starts the remaining games? I don't.

WHY would Zorn give some "bullshit excuse" to keep Doughty in?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

WHY would Zorn give some "bullshit excuse" to keep Doughty in?

I should have said, "...some bullshit excuse to avoid answering the question, or causing any drama."

[53Fan]

Level-headed decision. Horton will have his time. I've liked this kid since training camp but there is no need to rush things. Like I've said before, it's a great situation for us to be in.

[IRISHSKIN24]

Honestly you guys should relax and take a step back. Horton did play well but,
1 not to take the starting job from doughty.
2 he wasn't tested 1v1 deep quite like Landry, so you can't really say with confidence that he's better then RD.
3. wait to get on the "Horton Train" till he plays a couple more teams with deep threats cause the Saints really had no one on the field who was a consistent deep threat.
.... with all that said if he continually plays well or a least better then RD I 'd give him the starting job, preferably beginning next season

[celts32]

We'll see on Horton. This was just one game. He defintely earned more playing time...and if he keeps playing well he will play more then Doughty. To coin coach Denny Green though...we don't need to go crowning his arse just yet. The last thing we need to do is name this rookie the starter and put unecessary pressure or added attention on him.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

In summary: We should start Doughty because Horton is going to make mistakes. Weak.

I'd rather see Horton starting, and then just put Doughty in for all those "complicated situations".