Grade the Redskins Draft!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

How do I contradict myself? – I specifically stated why I gave the draft a D. If I was allowed more than 20 minutes of internet time at work per day, I would give you all sorts of criticisms of Orakpo – don’t get me wrong – he’ll likely be a great player, but everyone has weaknesses, and his coverage skills are his primary weakness.

Unless your work day ends at 10a, there is no way you spend only 20 minutes per day on the internet at work. I spend more time than that just reading your posts

How many calls came in – According to Vinny Cerratos press conference, they had 2 offers to trade back – in those 90 seconds. Obviously, those offers weren’t enticing enough to accept. what did they have to lose by using their entire allotment of time? Perhaps other teams would make better offers or one of the two teams who had already made offers would sweeten the pot?

I agree they could have spent more time, but they spend weeks and months leading up to this day discussing possible trade scenarios with teams below them. So they had a pretty good idea of what kind of calls they were going to get

And again, I did not accuse Snyder of “tanking” a draft – “Tanking” would involve deliberately making stupid picks. That’s not what happened here. For the most part, the skins got great players at a great value. If the skins were going to stay at 13, then taking Orakpo was a no-brainer. However, by failing to explore offers to trade down (allowing them to get a starting lineman AND a starting/rotational pass-rusher, the team essentially sealed both Zorn and Campbell’s fates. Baring a miracle, neither will be here in 2010. That’s why I gave the draft a D. We might have gotten great players, but by failing to address the offensive line, we’ve all but ensured another overhaul in 2010. This franchise is in dire need of stability. Instead, we’ve created a top 3 defense that will once again be shacked by a horrible, ineffective offense that cant score touchdowns.

Great players at great value...yet it's obvious Snyder is setting Zorn up to fail??

[cochise]

Maybe the FO was trying to pull off a "Horton" again. They should be so lucky. Only time will tell. But History teaches us this group has no clue how to run an orginization. If Miami can go from 1-15 to 11-5 in the span of 1 year when the only changes they made were the FO personnel, wat does that tell you?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by cochise

Maybe the FO was trying to pull off a "Horton" again. They should be so lucky. Only time will tell. But History teaches us this group has no clue how to run an orginization. If Miami can go from 1-15 to 11-5 in the span of 1 year when the only changes they made were the FO personnel, wat does that tell you?

There were more changes than just the FO. Chad Pennington ring a bell? Jake Long maybe?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

There were more changes than just the FO. Chad Pennington ring a bell? Jake Long maybe?

Well, Pennington was not really much of an upgrade over Cleo Lemon. <sarcasm font off>

[cochise]

"Great players at great value...yet it's obvious Snyder is setting Zorn up to fail?? "

Totally agree and don't forget Campbell. Seems likehe has it out for him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by cochise

"Great players at great value...yet it's obvious Snyder is setting Zorn up to fail?? "

Totally agree and don't forget Campbell. Seems likehe has it out for him.

What do you agree with? You're agreeing with BHA, I take it. Because I definitely don't agree that Snyder or Cerrato or any of them are trying to set up Zorn and Campbell to fail.

[MTK]

Zoom, right over your head.

[over the mountain]

I gave it a C.

I can only really comment on Orakpo and Barnes. the other guys I admit i have never seen play before and i dont feel like grading them based off some 2 sentence scouting report blurb (like other people here) from crazyeddiesdraftreport.com'on.

honestly, i follow football pretty hard core but have any of you all actually watched our 5th and 7th rounders play before? should i watch a youtube clip, read the comments then cut and paste them here as my own?

sorry for my negative snippyness, i need a smoke, but honestly there are alot of people on here talking like they knew who our late round picks were before we drafted them.

[celts32]

I go with a C. Orakpo was kind of a no brainer given who was left on the board and our needs so it's hard to give them a high grade based on that. Day 2 contained no OL help or anyone to get all that excited about IMO. However, it's really hard for us to grade 2nd day draft picks...I have Mel's book and I read a lot of draft stuff but still I don't know some of the guys they picked at all so it's a little silly to tell them they were wrong for picking them. Well see I guess...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

I go with a C. Orakpo was kind of a no brainer given who was left on the board and our needs so it's hard to give them a high grade based on that. Day 2 contained no OL help or anyone to get all that excited about IMO. However, it's really hard for us to grade 2nd day draft picks...I have Mel's book and I read a lot of draft stuff but still I don't know some of the guys they picked at all so it's a little silly to tell them they were wrong for picking them. Well see I guess...

I don't know why it's hard to give them a high grade for selecting Orakpo. Plenty of teams make poor selections in the first round, yet we (fans) tend to take for granted the selections we make in the first round as no-brainers. We could have selected any of the USC linebackers, or Oher, English, Ayers, Mack. All were available and all could have filled needs, so I don't think it's as simple as "Here's Orakpo, that's a no-brainer."

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know why it's hard to give them a high grade for selecting Orakpo. Plenty of teams make poor selections in the first round, yet we (fans) tend to take for granted the selections we make in the first round as no-brainers. We could have selected any of the USC linebackers, or Oher, English, Ayers, Mack. All were available and all could have filled needs, so I don't think it's as simple as "Here's Orakpo, that's a no-brainer."

Par for the course with Skins fans it seems. If they make a good pick, it's a no-brainer.

First rounders certainly aren't no-brainers. Otherwise we wouldn't have the term "bust".

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know why it's hard to give them a high grade for selecting Orakpo. Plenty of teams make poor selections in the first round, yet we (fans) tend to take for granted the selections we make in the first round as no-brainers. We could have selected any of the USC linebackers, or Oher, English, Ayers, Mack. All were available and all could have filled needs, so I don't think it's as simple as "Here's Orakpo, that's a no-brainer."

Definitely a good post - even though I'm happy with Orakpo pick (and much relieved that Jets traded for Sanchez); I sort of still kinda wish that we drafted Oher.. Ravens was smart to move up and draft him, they re going to have great Ts for years to come.. Ravens even began to discuss with Gaither about contract extension..

Orakpo definitely will help our D, but it still doesn't stop the fact that we have pressing need at RT.. I have feelings that Heyer will do well this year, but I think it's ridiculous to not take a future LT.. But once again, Redskins traded up to get Samuels, and we are glad they did.. So I assume the FO knows what to do with O-line (I'm sort of liking the Terps rookies)..

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know why it's hard to give them a high grade for selecting Orakpo. Plenty of teams make poor selections in the first round, yet we (fans) tend to take for granted the selections we make in the first round as no-brainers. We could have selected any of the USC linebackers, or Oher, English, Ayers, Mack. All were available and all could have filled needs, so I don't think it's as simple as "Here's Orakpo, that's a no-brainer."

I hear you...I didn't mean to imply that I give them no credit for picking Orakpo. I said I can't give the whole draft an A or B based on that pick alone. And like I said I don't know a lot about the guys they took later in the draft but nothing really jumped out at me. I would have liked to see them get a change of pace RB to compliment Portis and they didn't address the OL. I just wasn't overwhelmed so I gave them a C...it's not like I gave them an F though.

[firstdown]

Let me start by saying I do not follow much College ball so this time of year its hard for me to comment either way. For the ones that say we should have picked up some OL in the later rounds I was wondering was there any real talent that could have come in this year and helped?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Let me start by saying I do not follow much College ball so this time of year its hard for me to comment either way. For the ones that say we should have picked up some OL in the later rounds I was wondering was there any real talent that could have come in this year and helped?

I asked this but no one answered.