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Old 09-16-2009, 05:43 PM   #1
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Re: Positives of this Game

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That's retarded. First, LaVar explained the Landry hit in great detail last week. Laron's first giving up a lot of weight to that impact(obviously). 2nd, Laron thought about going low, and hesitated to follow through. That split 2nd allowe Jacobs' to get all of his weight much lower and Laron set himself up to take the hit.

London's hit was another case of mistaken momentum. You don't take 265 lb running backs normally by hitting them square in the chest, no matter who you are. And if you think so, stop watching football now, you'll never get it. Jacobs was already in a crowd of Redskins, and if you look at his body, he's still moving forward before the hit, but his weight isn't low at all. In fact, he's nearly running completely upright, positioning himself to be knocked over.

Just like anything else, collisions/tackles don't take place in a vacuum. Every angle is different. Every player is different. Every body position is different.
I agree about Landry, and momentum, but watch the hit in the video posted here, Jacobs is breaking a leg tackle or two and in good running posture, Fletcher basically makes a perfect tackle, squaring up and launching at Jacobs. Both men shook their head when they got up from the collission
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:41 PM   #2
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That's retarded. First, LaVar explained the Landry hit in great detail last week. Laron's first giving up a lot of weight to that impact(obviously). 2nd, Laron thought about going low, and hesitated to follow through. That split 2nd allowe Jacobs' to get all of his weight much lower and Laron set himself up to take the hit.

London's hit was another case of mistaken momentum. You don't take 265 lb running backs normally by hitting them square in the chest, no matter who you are. And if you think so, stop watching football now, you'll never get it. Jacobs was already in a crowd of Redskins, and if you look at his body, he's still moving forward before the hit, but his weight isn't low at all. In fact, he's nearly running completely upright, positioning himself to be knocked over.

Just like anything else, collisions/tackles don't take place in a vacuum. Every angle is different. Every player is different. Every body position is different.
Of course, tackles don't take place in a vacuum. But like I was saying, it apparently is better to try to hit Jacobs in his upper body than going low. If you're taking the stance that lower is always better, then I think your post is retarded. That's not always the case just cause that's what the popular opinion is.

Given everything you said, I would still like my chances of hitting Jacobs in the same manner as Fletcher rather than Landry - just because of the extreme results of one in comparison to the other. I would obviously rather dish out a bone jarring hit than take one. And when it is all is said and done - Fletcher dished it out and Landry took one.

And to your comment that I should stop watching football - maybe YOU should stop watching sportscenter (and these other 2 bit shows) to get your football knowledge.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:09 AM   #3
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Re: Positives of this Game

How hope we can let Moss some WR reverses since they want to use a safety over the top to stop him. Lets get him the ball earlier in the game. He better hold on the ball unlike the Green Bay game when he fumbled which lead to a Packers touchdown.
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nice payback for Landry getting trucked last year
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:02 PM   #5
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If you leave your feet (because you're jumping a would-be tackler) then you lose your leverage. Last time with Landry Jacobs was running and lowered his shoulders, this time he's off his feet and had to go backwards.

Same thing happens with a punch: Jump and throw it and it will lose force, but stay grounded and throw it and you increase the force.

Go on, try it!
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:22 PM   #6
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If you leave your feet (because you're jumping a would-be tackler) then you lose your leverage. Last time with Landry Jacobs was running and lowered his shoulders, this time he's off his feet and had to go backwards.

Same thing happens with a punch: Jump and throw it and it will lose force, but stay grounded and throw it and you increase the force.

Go on, try it!
But he's not off his feet, he was running in stride. Please re-watch the video specifically the 18-21 second mark. I watched and rewatched to see how he was moving, and he is running in stride, pretty much full force. just watch Fletcher position his body, then at the last second lunge out at Jacobs, it was a full blast body blow, and fun to watch over and over.
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But he's not off his feet, he was running in stride. Please re-watch the video specifically the 18-21 second mark. I watched and rewatched to see how he was moving, and he is running in stride, pretty much full force. just watch Fletcher position his body, then at the last second lunge out at Jacobs, it was a full blast body blow, and fun to watch over and over.
Fletcher's tackle on Hakeem Nicks was even better. Hall got completely juked out of his shoes after blowing the coverage, and Nicks made a move to get away, and Fletch not only closed the play off but ended up injuring Nicks in the process. It was the second best defensive play of the game (Haynesworth went all superman in the third quarter on Bradshaw).
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:51 PM   #8
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Just want to say this. I think JC had a better game then he got credit for and I think we will look much better this week. When JC threw that interception, I think that everybody was so pissed off that they were blinded by all the good thongs JC did. On top of that he went back turned the ball over, and it resulted in a TD. The truth is that JC has never done anything like that run over the line play. Anger left us unable to see that he threw the ball well. Unfortunatley, the two mistakes turned out to be worst case scenerios.
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:02 PM   #9
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Just want to say this. I think JC had a better game then he got credit for and I think we will look much better this week. When JC threw that interception, I think that everybody was so pissed off that they were blinded by all the good thongs JC did. On top of that he went back turned the ball over, and it resulted in a TD. The truth is that JC has never done anything like that run over the line play. Anger left us unable to see that he threw the ball well. Unfortunatley, the two mistakes turned out to be worst case scenerios.
I totally agree. Cooley and ARE had good games. So he was obviously getting the ball to them. I saw some good throws. Moss head wasn't in the game. So it put us back to where we were before. But your right the two mistakes stick out in peoples minds more than the rest of his play.

I am sure he will learn from his mistakes.
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