Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I think the first drive ending in a touchdown needs an asterisk because the defense had stopped them.

Pretty sure we didn't stop anyone yesterday.

[Crat92]

We need to tackle a helluva lot better!

[freddyg12]

I said several times this summer that I expected this defense to fall in statistical categories, give up more yards, but also get more turnovers. So far, everything but the turnovers is coming to fruition.

By the end of last year, this defense wasn't that good. I know they were often on the field a long time, but they couldn't stop below avg. offenses like Baltimore & S.F. when it counted. Statistically, last year they were overachievers, but there were several games when the team needed a big stop & they couldn't do it.

I think Blache has a decent fundamental system, but his blitzing is so obvious; watch the safefites & LBs before a play; 90% of the time whoever creeps up to the line is the one blitzing! There's no element of confusion that GW's defenses had, when QBs didn't know which guys were coming. That is coaching & is all on Blache.

Another problem in all 3 games this year; the D plays so much better in the 2nd half. It's as if it takes a whole half for them to warm up & make adjustments. They gave up 275 yards (terrible) in the 1st half yesterday, 106 (great) in the second. That's not a sign of a well coached, well prepared team.

I'm not saying Blache should be replaced, but I think it's obvious that at times like this the HC needs to assert himself on the DC & let him know that he's got to make some changes, even if they're minor. Can Zorn do that? I'm not sure.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I questioned whether the defense would take a step back after Greg Williams left. The first year not so much. Blache stuck with most of the schemes Greg Williams used and our defense played decent. Greg used to rush the CBs and the safeties. It seems like he is doing less of that this year. We go with older lineman over more talented youth. Our Dbs play 10 yards off the ball. We only rush 4 D lineman. We put Orakpo at LB where is he a liability in coverage instead of using him on the D line.

We aren't good at tackling. Our secondary scheme sucks and we get no pressure on the QB so it makes the job even harder for the secondary. Has Blache not realized that "The Orakpo Experiment" is not working. You only hear his name during the game when he lines up as a rushers. I just feel like Blache is stubborn and has moved away from the Greg Williams scheme because he has become full of himself.

Someone commented and said that Greg Blache said that sacks are overrated. That tells of him being so full of himself that he thinks his schemes are better than common sense when it comes to football. At one point in the first half the Lions were 9-11 on 3rd down conversions. We can stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We have our issues on offense. But our D has underachieved by a long shot.

If your players are having problems tackling you make them work on it. If what you are doing is not working adapt and try something else. You can't keep doing the same things and expect different results. We go out and sign AH, draft Orakpo and pay D Hall all this money and our defense gets worse. Go figure!!

Can't blame Blache for the FO paying out gobs of dough for our FAs. Can't blame Blache when our DBs are getting beat. The poor bastard only can be effective as the talent on the field allows him to be. As for Zorn, the guy can't coach period. Lousy playcalling for sure, but let's face it, the WCO is archaic, a fossil, from the 80's-early 90's. Not only that but he is working with Gibbs personnel that was brought in here for a long ball air game. Can't put square blocks into round holes. Thomas, Kelly, and even Mitchell will be wastes of space with the WCO. Could you imagine this trio if Gibbs offense or even Norv's was still in place? Bottom line is I agree with Matty, everyone is at fault, even JC. Sure the system sucks, but players still need to execute. JC had a big game, but watching him in person, he was a lot less poised than Stafford, still threw dangerous passes(lucky he didn't get picked 3-4 times), and looked like he was out of it at times(3-4 lost snaps). All in all the team from top to bottom is mediocre and I hate to say it although I laughed at the Sporting News preseason 4-12 prediction, unless the ship is righted soon that is going to be a reality!!!!

[firstdown]

Not sure why blach is taking so much heat. After 3 games our O has scored 30 points which is 10 per game. 14 of those points came after the game was pretty much over and teams where playing prevent which with our O does not make much sense. So if we take off those 14 points we have scored 16 points at a little over 5 per game. That works out to be a little over 1 point per qtr. but some how our problem are on Blach.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Not sure why blach is taking so much heat. After 3 games our O has scored 30 points which is 10 per game. 14 of those points came after the game was pretty much over and teams where playing prevent which with our O does not make much sense. So if we take off those 14 points we have scored 16 points at a little over 5 per game. That works out to be a little over 1 point per qtr. but some how our problem are on Blach.

well ny and detroit, the two games we lost, the opponents had 10minutes more time of possesion then the skins. The skins barely got on the field in the first half against detroit, except their one long drive. You can't score if the opponent has the ball. kinda simple (well at least we can't as Tripp pointed out its been 29 games since we have had a defensive score.)

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

well ny and detroit, the two games we lost, the opponents had 10minutes more time of possesion then the skins. The skins barely got on the field in the first half against detroit, except their one long drive. You can't score if the opponent has the ball. kinda simple (well at least we can't as Tripp pointed out its been 29 games since we have had a defensive score.)

I dont know if it was last game or not when they said that the offense only had the ball for 5 plays in the first quarter.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Not sure why blach is taking so much heat. After 3 games our O has scored 30 points which is 10 per game. 14 of those points came after the game was pretty much over and teams where playing prevent which with our O does not make much sense. So if we take off those 14 points we have scored 16 points at a little over 5 per game. That works out to be a little over 1 point per qtr. but some how our problem are on Blach.

Actually, if you take away all of our offensive drives, we haven't scored even a single offensive point this year. Not even one. What crap.

first, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. Blache has been a crappy coordinator going back to last year. He didn't just forget how to coach against Detroit.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Actually, if you take away all of our offensive drives, we haven't scored even a single offensive point this year. Not even one. What crap.

first, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. Blache has been a crappy coordinator going back to last year. He didn't just forget how to coach against Detroit.

that's just your opinion but the so called experts that I've heard think he's done a good job.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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that's just your opinion but the so called experts that I've heard think he's done a good job.

It is just my opinion, but those experts suck.

Not because they disagree with me, but because they are claiming "expertise" off of superficial knowledge. I claim no such expertise, I just offer an opinion based on much more direct evidence.

Not one person who goes through the game tape here (and there are at least 5 of us) think Blache is good at what he does.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It is just my opinion, but those experts suck.

Not because they disagree with me, but because they are claiming "expertise" off of superficial knowledge. I claim no such expertise, I just offer an opinion based on much more direct evidence.

Not one person who goes through the game tape here (and there are at least 5 of us) think Blache is good at what he does.

Oh ok. I think they all played NFL football and have more knowledge than people around here do. And just cause some of you watch film doesn't mean you know what your talking about, or know the details of the schemes. Everyone just wants to cry about the coaching, which could be better. But the real problem is we just don't have the players. But no one wants to hear that.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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that's just your opinion but the so called experts that I've heard think he's done a good job.

Your so called "experts" get more press by saying that Snyder likes to get big time free agents like Haynesworth and Hall and still fail, instead of asking why can't the defensive coordinator make these defense elite with this talent.

As a matter of fact, we fans lay the blame on Snyder and Cerrato all the time, yet we don't ask ourselves why can't the coaches succeed with these talented players.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Your so called "experts" get more press by saying that Snyder likes to get big time free agents like Haynesworth and Hall and still fail, instead of asking why can't the defensive coordinator make these defense elite with this talent.

As a matter of fact, we fans lay the blame on Snyder and Cerrato all the time, yet we don't ask ourselves why can't the coaches succeed with these talented players.

Cause Hall sucks shit. Good corners aren't on their 3rd team when they're 25 years old. You don't see that in the NFL. You don't see the guy on Oakland ( can't spell his name) moving around do you? Haynesworth is horribly out of shape. But when he takes on double teams the other guys ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. So keep blaming Blache all you want, I happen to agree that he needs to be more aggressive, but the real issue here is the personel on both sides of the ball.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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that's just your opinion but the so called experts that I've heard think he's done a good job.

Who are these "experts"? How many Redskins games have they reviewed on DVR or with actual game film? Have they looked at out defensive stats other than yards & points?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Who are these "experts"? How many Redskins games have they reviewed on DVR or with actual game film? Have they looked at out defensive stats other than yards & points?

I've listened to Doc Walker, Trevor Matich, B Mitch. But honestly I don't need to listen to them to know that even though the defense has looked spotty and isn't getting off the field we haven't given up a lot of points. And I really don't care about stats. Stats are for losers IMO. The bottom line is are teams scoring a ton of points on us? That was the case in 06. Have we given up 30 points to anyone? It's bend but don't break. I wish we had a defense like Balt or Pitts but we don't.