Updated/Merged: Shanahan Rumors (Will He or Won't He?)

[SBXVII]

Do any of you all think this is the year DS has his come to jesus meeting and realizes that with his meddling and Cerrato in place no decent HC will take the job? and if so do you think he will make the change that's best for the team or will he let his EGO get in the way and take what he can get and settle for more of the same mediocracy?

[CultBrennan59]

we've got some pretty disperate fans on this thread thinking that the season could still be a success...wake up people seasons over, start looking toward the draft.

[REDSKINS1980]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

we've got some pretty disperate fans on this thread thinking that the season could still be a success...wake up people seasons over, start looking toward the draft.

so true

[SBXVII]

I don't like the Shanahan or Holmgren ideas.

I like M.Schottenheimer and have made no bones about it but even today on the radio the discussed previous coach's and apparently said the reason Marty was let go was because DS could not get a long with him. Perhaps thats why I like him. Maybe Marty would have the balls to tell DS to back off and let him be the GM. As long as the team is winning I can't see DS complaining too much.

I just wish they could mend any fences that may have been broken and make the move. I thought Marty got canned cause he wanted more control like a GM position and DS said no and Marty left, so I wonder if he would take the job if asked? He was pretty good at evaluating talent. Would bring in great talent scouts. Could name his son B. Schottenheimer HC. Maybe make it a family affair and bring in his brother Bruce Schottenheimer as well to learn under a great defensive co-ordinator.

[sportscurmudgeon]

SBXVII:

I do not pretend to know either Marty Schottenheimer or Danny Boy. However, I do know several folks who know both of these men well.


According to those folks, Marty is VERY difficult to work with and particularly difficult in a situation where you put him in charge of something. In that scenario, his idea is that he is the only person on Earth who should be allowed to make even the most trivial deicsion about what goes on there. AND by reputation, he is not the most tactful person on the planet when it comes to telling people to stay out of his business.


According to other folks, Danny Boy thinks that his money makes him the smartest guy in the room under almost any circumstances. But according to those same folks, he's not the smartest guy in the room - - ever. And because he thinks he knows just about everything, he cannot abide people making decisions that do not involve his "approval" or "impramatur".


Admittedly, I have distilled info here to keep these descriptions brief but if you look at the two of them and imagine how those folks might work well together, you will see that it is highly unlikely. They tried it once; it didn't work; neither one is interested in burying the hatchet - - unless it is between the eyebrows of the other one.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

SBXVII:

I do not pretend to know either Marty Schottenheimer or Danny Boy. However, I do know several folks who know both of these men well.


According to those folks, Marty is VERY difficult to work with and particularly difficult in a situation where you put him in charge of something. In that scenario, his idea is that he is the only person on Earth who should be allowed to make even the most trivial deicsion about what goes on there. AND by reputation, he is not the most tactful person on the planet when it comes to telling people to stay out of his business.


According to other folks, Danny Boy thinks that his money makes him the smartest guy in the room under almost any circumstances. But according to those same folks, he's not the smartest guy in the room - - ever. And because he thinks he knows just about everything, he cannot abide people making decisions that do not involve his "approval" or "impramatur".


Admittedly, I have distilled info here to keep these descriptions brief but if you look at the two of them and imagine how those folks might work well together, you will see that it is highly unlikely. They tried it once; it didn't work; neither one is interested in burying the hatchet - - unless it is between the eyebrows of the other one.

LOL. What a visual

Never spent any time with Snyder (no substantial time at least) but I did spend a lot of time around Schottenheimer and that's pretty much a 100% accurate assessment of him. Superbly arrogant with a remarkably annoying penchant for detail. I was very impressed by him, especially by the way he came in and took charge after the Norv fiasco, but I could see how having to deal with him or work for him could drive someone crazy

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

SBXVII:

I do not pretend to know either Marty Schottenheimer or Danny Boy. However, I do know several folks who know both of these men well.


According to those folks, Marty is VERY difficult to work with and particularly difficult in a situation where you put him in charge of something. In that scenario, his idea is that he is the only person on Earth who should be allowed to make even the most trivial deicsion about what goes on there. AND by reputation, he is not the most tactful person on the planet when it comes to telling people to stay out of his business.


According to other folks, Danny Boy thinks that his money makes him the smartest guy in the room under almost any circumstances. But according to those same folks, he's not the smartest guy in the room - - ever. And because he thinks he knows just about everything, he cannot abide people making decisions that do not involve his "approval" or "impramatur".


Admittedly, I have distilled info here to keep these descriptions brief but if you look at the two of them and imagine how those folks might work well together, you will see that it is highly unlikely. They tried it once; it didn't work; neither one is interested in burying the hatchet - - unless it is between the eyebrows of the other one.

But....if DS is not getting anyone worth a crap and he does come to the realization that he needs to just write the checks and allow someone else with football knowledge to build the team then maybe M.Schottenheimer is the man to know when to say "Get lost DS." Otherewise we will see more of the same enablers. Saying..."Whatever you want DS."

[SeanTaGodsSafety]

Bill Cohwer

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SeanTaGodsSafety

Bill Cohwer

One word, two letters: NO.

[REDSKINS1980]

the staff is being set up for holmgren, and a plus is that holmgren likes campbell as a quarterback. would not be surprised if within the next week or two he steps in.

[SBXVII]

Interesting news:

Rick Snider » Sources: Gruden atop Snyder's wish list | Washington Examiner

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Interesting news:

Rick Snider » Sources: Gruden atop Snyder's wish list | Washington Examiner

Well this won't please too many people

"Snyder is seeking is a candidate willing to leave major personnel decisions to Cerrato and the owner. NFL sources close to Gruden said that's not an expected deal breaker."

Gruden with Bruce Allen, heck even just Bruce Allen without Gruden, could have been nice. I'm not sure who the sources are who say Gruden is interested in the Redskins, I'm curious to know who they are. Not saying they're wrong but I've got arguably the best source when it comes to Gruden and in the last few weeks this source has repeatedly said "not interested" But...it's only October

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well this won't please too many people

"Snyder is seeking is a candidate willing to leave major personnel decisions to Cerrato and the owner. NFL sources close to Gruden said that's not an expected deal breaker."

Gruden with Bruce Allen, heck even just Bruce Allen without Gruden, could have been nice. I'm not sure who the sources are who say Gruden is interested in the Redskins, I'm curious to know who they are. Not saying they're wrong but I've got arguably the best source when it comes to Gruden and in the last few weeks this source has repeatedly said "not interested" But...it's only October

Are you comfortable with that?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Are you comfortable with that?

Comfortable with what?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

"Snyder is seeking is a candidate willing to leave major personnel decisions to Cerrato and the owner. NFL sources close to Gruden said that's not an expected deal breaker."

God help us. I hope these guys don't give up the world to get Bradford. Our first pick needs to be on a franchise LT.

EDIT: What did Gruden's TB teams bring to the table outside of Monte Kiffin's defense? Not a whole hell of a lot IMO.