Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seeing it on TV it was crystal clear that he dragged his foot, I thought the crowd reaction was really odd, guess that explains it.

yeah it definitly looked like he only got one foot in those sorry ass dot matrix screens are soo freaking out dated. not to mention the stupid ass acorebord with the misletoe in the top corner with snow on the redskins at the bottom. only thing snyder cares about is more seasting in there which was atleast half empty in the club level

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seeing it on TV it was crystal clear that he dragged his foot, I thought the crowd reaction was really odd, guess that explains it.

The stadium erupted when they pulled the replay up (Quite quickly, the quickest of any of the replays on the day) and it looked to us that he never got the 2nd foot in bounds. There were 2 Saints fans sitting 2 rows in front of me with their heads hanging because they thought it was going to be overturned.

I do remember another smack down. The field conditions were terrible. Almost like they didn't put the tarp down on Friday and let it snow and ice all over the field on Saturday to come up with less than stellar field conditions for a dome team coming to town on Sunday. I guess that's another conspiracy theory for another time as well...

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

The stadium erupted when they pulled the replay up (Quite quickly, the quickest of any of the replays on the day) and it looked to us that he never got the 2nd foot in bounds. There were 2 Saints fans sitting 2 rows in front of me with their heads hanging because they thought it was going to be overturned.

I do remember another smack down. The field conditions were terrible. Almost like they didn't put the tarp down on Friday and let it snow and ice all over the field on Saturday to come up with less than stellar field conditions for a dome team coming to town on Sunday. I guess that's another conspiracy theory for another time as well...

it was more like god awful, it was really shitty right by the redskins sideline, from the 40 to the 20, it was like a mud pit there, the refs almost fell down when they tried to go to the booth. there is no way that section of the feild was covered at all

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

The field conditions were terrible. Almost like they didn't put the tarp down on Friday and let it snow and ice all over the field on Saturday to come up with less than stellar field conditions for a dome team coming to town on Sunday. I guess that's another conspiracy theory for another time as well...

Thats what you call home field advantage. I read somewhere that Coach Gibbs would let the field go uncut to slow down a high powered offense. So letting the field go uncovered and getting sloppy is fine with me. The Saints are used to a perfect field so you have to take the advantage if it is given to you.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seeing it on TV it was crystal clear that he dragged his foot, I thought the crowd reaction was really odd, guess that explains it.

One angle made it look like a solid drag, one made it look like it was floating a bit high. Also I seem to remember the catching coming in very late on that foot. I don't know though, I'd have to re-review.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by bigmarley4

I'd give a mini smack down on some obnoxious bandwagon Saints fans at the game. I've never seen any group of fans with such crisp, bright brand new jerseys and hats that looked like they just came out of the box. I'd didn't see a single old-school jersey the entire day. Most were DC area people who would have been cheering for Skins last year...

Saw that in the early 90s a lot with the Cowboys and a TON in the NoVA area after the Steelers won in the 2005 season.

[redsk1]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but did anyone watch Football Night In America last night. The question was posed to Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison, What would you do with Suisham? Both said w/out hesitation, i'd have to cut him.

Dungy said he's cost us two games and he'd have to cut him before he cost him his job. I tend to agree. It's a harsh business, but two games in 3 weeks. It would send a message that we don't like losing. I don't trust Suisham w/ big kicks.

[firstdown]

Funny most of you guys bitching about our loss also picked us to loose the game. So why bitch about something you said was going to happen.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know, I know...everyone's life is over because the Redskins at 3-8 lost to the 11-0 Saints thanks to overpaid athletes and management that don't care about winning nearly as much about the Redskins as the fans do. Woe is all of us. Most Redskins fans predicted a devastating loss going into the game, and just as many were hoping for one a) because they wanted Gregg Williams to stick it to the Redskins and b) every loss is a step closer to kicking Cerrato to the curb.

Before we get to the smack down, let's look at some positives: We're only the second team this year to put 30 points up on the board against Genius Williams (so apologies to every Redskins fan out there that was rooting more so for Williams than the Skins today). Devin Thomas had a beast of a game (indirect props to Cerrato for drafting him and Hixon for coaching him). Davis has done a great job since Cooley went down being Campbell's go-to guy when he needs one. I'm really becoming a big Ganther fan. He's not a starter (meaning 25+ carries/game) but he knows what to do out there and he does it well.

And of course Jason Campbell had another very strong performance (except for that INT)

The Redskins have lost the last three game by seven points...combined. It doesn't get more frustrating than that. But if there's a positive here it's that the last two games have been the best offensive performances we've had since probably last September. And we're doing it with guys like Thomas, Ganther, and Davis leading the way...not Randle El, Portis, and Cooley.

Still, it's time to lay the smack down.

Laron Landry For every spectacular play...he screws up on five basic plays. I'd rather he be consistently solid then occasionally awesome.

The Officiating I'd rather they just be consistent

Shaun Suisham Truthfully, even before the field goal (which I never imagined he'd miss) I was hoping the Redskins would be a little more aggressive in the red zone after the DT facemask. But still, even with the conservative playcalling and the high snap there's no excuse for yet another miss in the clutch like that for Suisham. I don't like kneejerk reactions but this is a recurring situation it seems with Suisham...is it time to cut him and just sign Rayner back for the remainder of the year.

It was a frustrating loss for sure, but most of never even gave them a chance to be in it long enough to even be a frustrating loss.

Landry simply needs to be sat down. The coaches need to put their foot down on this guy. Let him play teams for a while. He's not mature, he undisciplined, he can't tackle and he acts like a freakin 13 year old.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know, I know...everyone's life is over because the Redskins at 3-8 lost to the 11-0 Saints thanks to overpaid athletes and management that don't care about winning nearly as much about the Redskins as the fans do. Woe is all of us. Most Redskins fans predicted a devastating loss going into the game, and just as many were hoping for one a) because they wanted Gregg Williams to stick it to the Redskins and b) every loss is a step closer to kicking Cerrato to the curb.

Before we get to the smack down, let's look at some positives: We're only the second team this year to put 30 points up on the board against Genius Williams (so apologies to every Redskins fan out there that was rooting more so for Williams than the Skins today). Devin Thomas had a beast of a game (indirect props to Cerrato for drafting him and Hixon for coaching him). Davis has done a great job since Cooley went down being Campbell's go-to guy when he needs one. I'm really becoming a big Ganther fan. He's not a starter (meaning 25+ carries/game) but he knows what to do out there and he does it well.

And of course Jason Campbell had another very strong performance (except for that INT)

The Redskins have lost the last three game by seven points...combined. It doesn't get more frustrating than that. But if there's a positive here it's that the last two games have been the best offensive performances we've had since probably last September. And we're doing it with guys like Thomas, Ganther, and Davis leading the way...not Randle El, Portis, and Cooley.

Still, it's time to lay the smack down.

Laron Landry For every spectacular play...he screws up on five basic plays. I'd rather he be consistently solid then occasionally awesome.

The Officiating I'd rather they just be consistent

Shaun Suisham Truthfully, even before the field goal (which I never imagined he'd miss) I was hoping the Redskins would be a little more aggressive in the red zone after the DT facemask. But still, even with the conservative playcalling and the high snap there's no excuse for yet another miss in the clutch like that for Suisham. I don't like kneejerk reactions but this is a recurring situation it seems with Suisham...is it time to cut him and just sign Rayner back for the remainder of the year.

It was a frustrating loss for sure, but most of never even gave them a chance to be in it long enough to even be a frustrating loss.

I did, damn it.

[MTK]

I want to lay some smack on the football itself. What was up with that punt hitting Barnes? I mean of all the shit luck!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I want to lay some smack on the football itself. What was up with that punt hitting Barnes? I mean of all the shit luck!

Or the ball going right into the hands of Meacham after he stripped Moore. In the other 99.9% of the time, that ball falls to the ground.

Speaking of fumbles, Florio makes a good argument about the fumble situations and the officials calling down by contact. I also think that calling a timeout during OT in that situation is pretty much a challenge. Oh well.

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[calia]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Or the ball going right into the hands of Meacham after he stripped Moore. In the other 99.9% of the time, that ball falls to the ground.

Speaking of fumbles, Florio makes a good argument about the fumble situations and the officials calling down by contact. I also think that calling a timeout during OT in that situation is pretty much a challenge. Oh well.

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It was. In OT, coaches do not have challenge flags, and Payton said on the Opening Drive (Sirius radio) this morning that he called the challenge to give the officials time to review the play and see if it was a fumble. AND he got the timeout back when it was ruled a fumble (which surprised him, although it isn't really consequential). But he said he called the timeout knowing that in OT if the officials have a close call to make and time, they will generally review the play.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by calia

It was. In OT, coaches do not have challenge flags, and Payton said on the Opening Drive (Sirius radio) this morning that he called the challenge to give the officials time to review the play and see if it was a fumble. AND he got the timeout back when it was ruled a fumble (which surprised him, although it isn't really consequential). But he said he called the timeout knowing that in OT if the officials have a close call to make and time, they will generally review the play.

Yep, I mentioned this I believe last night in the gameday thread. Either give them a challenge or stop reviewing the play once a timeout is called.

I'm not going to call the game fixed or go off on any conspiracy theories but obviously the league would want the Saints to win, there's a lot of excitement in undefeated teams in each conference possibly facing each other in the SB and they'll definitely want to ride that out. I find it very odd how long each replay took; certainly enough time to consult with league officials on what to do, not that I'm remotely saying that that's what happened, just odd.

[MTK]

It's just funny how the ball always seems to take a good bounce for the other team on a fumble, or it rolls out of bounds.