Time to Build an Offensive Line

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by PHazard

Why use a 2nd round pick on Jahvid Best? We already have a player with his skill set in Anthony Aldridge. RB coach just needs to coach him up more in holding the ball higher and tighter which i know he can do. Shanahan loves pounding the rock as much as he can but Best isnt an every down back. Why waste a pick as high as 2nd on a committee runner? No Thanx, grab more Olineman help Brown, Ducassee, Campbell, etc

Just to play devils advocate as I want to see either a QB/T or T/OL draft but you draft Best because you have visions of a young Clinton Portis. At the same time though he could easily end up being a flash in the pan like Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, and gasp Tatum Bell.

Personally the idea of drafting a RB this high at this point in time makes me nervous. Maybe if we were more established and were truly one or two pieces away from a Super Bowl, especially since RB's learn quickly in spite of their short shelf life.

[PHazard]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Just to play devils advocate as I want to see either a QB/T or T/OL draft but you draft Best because you have visions of a young Clinton Portis. At the same time though he could easily end up being a flash in the pan like Julius Jones, Kevin Jones, and gasp Tatum Bell.

Personally the idea of drafting a RB this high at this point in time makes me nervous. Maybe if we were more established and were truly one or two pieces away from a Super Bowl, especially since RB's learn quickly in spite of their short shelf life.

Just to play Keanu Reeves, Best isnt the same mold as a Clinton Portis, a Julius Jones, or a Kevin Jones. They are bigger stronger backs who can carry more of the workload. All have been the Main guy at some point in their respected careers. But Best is in the mold of a darren sproles, a leon washington, and an anthony alridge. A change of pace back. Speed that will catch you off guard. So again. No need to use a 2nd round pick on a change of pace back. If Portis goes down to injury, you trust best to take the bulk of the carries? With his past injury history, id say he wouldnt hold up long. If we're keeping portis, you take a 5-7th round pick or Undrafted rookie on a bigger back and use alridge in change of pace situations. Shanahan is the one who suggested him to the redskins. Said Alridge was the fastest player he'd ever seen on the field with a football in his hand. And Shanahan used him well for the 1 season wit Broncos. Hail.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by PHazard

Just to play Keanu Reeves, Best isnt the same mold as a Clinton Portis, a Julius Jones, or a Kevin Jones. They are bigger stronger backs who can carry more of the workload. All have been the Main guy at some point in their respected careers. But Best is in the mold of a darren sproles, a leon washington, and an anthony alridge. A change of pace back. Speed that will catch you off guard. So again. No need to use a 2nd round pick on a change of pace back. If Portis goes down to injury, you trust best to take the bulk of the carries? With his past injury history, id say he wouldnt hold up long. If we're keeping portis, you take a 5-7th round pick or Undrafted rookie on a bigger back and use alridge in change of pace situations. Shanahan is the one who suggested him to the redskins. Said Alridge was the fastest player he'd ever seen on the field with a football in his hand. And Shanahan used him well for the 1 season wit Broncos. Hail.

Keanu,

The comparison to CP was based on the scouting reports of him saying that upon entering the league that he could not be counted on to be an every down back.

Patient runner with great vision and a sense of awareness. Sees the field, waits for blocks to develop then follows them. Displays top footwork in a small area; sidesteps opponents, has some swivel to his runs, showing elusiveness in a small area. Leaves opponents grasping for air and weaves his way through the traffic, finding the small spaces in the defense and getting through them. Looks to set up his blocks either at the line of scrimmage or down the field. Adjusts off the initial hit, breaks arm tackles and quick regaining his balance and getting back to running form. Solid receiver out of the backfield that catches the ball cleanly and runs well after the reception. Does not translate his stop watch speed onto the football field; can not bounce it to the outside, run to daylight nor does he show a burst. Best between the tackles but may not have the size to take an every down pounding. Very productive and a runner who will produce if put in a rotational system that shuffles its backs in and out of the lineup. Late Second Round.

Though yes you're right Best is an outside runner while CP was obviously seen as a between the tackles guy. I wasn't even necessarily coming him skill wise to Kevin, Julius, and CP. Though out of that group Kevin might have been the only "everydown" back.

[SmootSmack]

I'm really interested in seeing how Dwyer does at the combine. If he shows he can keep the weight off I think he's potentially a better choice than Best or Spiller

Anyone interested in signing Casey Wiegmann?

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by [B

SmootSmack;665505]I'm really interested in seeing how Dwyer does at the combine. If he shows he can keep the weight off I think he's potentially a better choice than Best or Spiller
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Anyone interested in signing Casey Wiegmann?

I would rather take LeGarette Blount or Dexter McCluster with a later pick

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm really interested in seeing how Dwyer does at the combine. If he shows he can keep the weight off I think he's potentially a better choice than Best or Spiller

Anyone interested in signing Casey Wiegmann?

Other than his age, the fit here is too obvious to mention. I would not mind if we brought him in. In the worst case, he teaches the Shanahan method to the young bucks who presumably will be on the roster post-April.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Anyone interested in signing Casey Wiegmann?

Yes. But I'd prefer if he had to battle for the job before he got a roster spot guaranteed to him.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm really interested in seeing how Dwyer does at the combine. If he shows he can keep the weight off I think he's potentially a better choice than Best or Spiller

Anyone interested in signing Casey Wiegmann?

Yes.
Rabach is a UFA and Wiegmann imo represents an upgrade because of both ability and knowledge of scheme.

He could man the spot until our current centers (Edwin Williams and Lichtensteiger) are ready to take over.

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Heyer went from one of our worst run blockers in 2008 to one of our best last season. Unfortunately his pass blocking was unimproved from his previous season, and at age 25, he's only a fringe starter in this league.

I could agree with fringe starter.
I guess i'm alone in thinking that because he played injured for the beter part of last year and that at 25 years old he could improve from a fringe starter to a decent starter.

I wonder who would be a better RT/LT next year the 6th/7th/8th ranked OT like Ducasse, Brown or Veldeer(sp?) or a healthy Heyer?

We'd be better off with Stephon Heyer at RT than with Levi Jones at LT, but only marginally.

I agree that an injured Heyer is marginally better the Levi Jones.

The larger point that if we ever have to see Stephon Heyer at LT with Mike Williams at RT again, it's time to give up hope.

^^That scares the beejesus out of me and its why i think we should take an OT or trade down and get an OT in in the 1st round.

[GTripp0012]

Love Monterrio Hardesty in the fourth if Matt Tennant is gone (and if quarterback has been addressed).

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Love Monterrio Hardesty in the fourth if Matt Tennant is gone (and if quarterback has been addressed).

Same, but I think between the two, shanny would go with Tennant, since he is being compared to Tom Nalen, the former bronco's all pro center. McShay says Hardesty reminds him of portis though.

[GTripp0012]

Heyer went from one of our worst run blockers in 2008 to one of our best last season. Unfortunately his pass blocking was unimproved from his previous season, and at age 25, he's only a fringe starter in this league.

We'd be better off with Stephon Heyer at RT than with Levi Jones at LT, but only marginally. The larger point that if we ever have to see Stephon Heyer at LT with Mike Williams at RT again, it's time to give up hope.

[tryfuhl]

wiegmann would be fine but if we're robbing the nursing home might as well look at mawae too

[Monkeydad]

Twitter / Jason Reid: The Redskins this week rea ...

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Argh.

[Monkeydad]

In related news: Casey Wiegmann

[diehardskin2982]

We are about to re-up Rabach. I don't think this is a good idea, he is nothing more than a backup in this league at this point in his career. Hopefully he won't be the next Jon Jansen

Redskins Insider - Redskins, Rabach in contract talks