Annual Predict the Final Roster Thread: 2010 Version

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Think Terence Austin is the guy who solidified that spot last night.

Banks/Thomas is a decision to make. Could keep both, then just three RBs and 8 Lineman. But I'm not sure we'd be able to use both.

Larry Johnson appears safe. Torain looks like the odd man out.

I don't think Thomas is fighting for a job. He is the best blocking WR and his combination of size and speed is too much to cut.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I don't think Thomas is fighting for a job. He is the best blocking WR and his combination of size and speed is too much to cut.

Everybody has size and speed in the NFL. Everyone. Well, not Banks. He has double speed and half size.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Everybody has size and speed in the NFL. Everyone. Well, not Banks. He has double speed and half size.

Thomas is a lock. Unquestioned.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Think Terence Austin is the guy who solidified that spot last night.

Banks/Thomas is a decision to make. Could keep both, then just three RBs and 8 Lineman. But I'm not sure we'd be able to use both.

Larry Johnson appears safe. Torain looks like the odd man out.

I don't see how the team would be chosing between Banks and Thomas. Theyre completely different types of receivers and while Thomas secured his spot last night, Banks played his way out of a job. The true competitions, if there ever were any, were between Kelly/Thomas and Banks/Austin. Right now, Matt Leinhart has a better shot of making the team than Brandon Banks does.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I don't see how the team would be chosing between Banks and Thomas. Theyre completely different types of receivers and while Thomas secured his spot last night, Banks played his way out of a job. The true competitions, if there ever were any, were between Kelly/Thomas and Banks/Austin. Right now, Matt Leinhart has a better shot of making the team than Brandon Banks does.

They are completely different types of players, you'd be correct on that, but they would have the same playing time in the same situations on the team, which is why it makes little sense to keep both.

Really, I don't think Thomas has done anything in the preseason to either get himself cut or to make the team. I think this is more about Banks. Does Shanahan want to employ a 5th/6th WR whose primary value is that he's blindingly fast? Or does he push the specialist to the practice squad to take the more complete player, Thomas.

The biggest thing that came from last nights game was that the third option, keeping both and cutting Austin, is not much of a choice. Austin is now at least as much of a lock as Galloway, and probably more. Austin could be our no. 3 WR as soon as next year.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They are completely different types of players, you'd be correct on that, but they would have the same playing time in the same situations on the team, which is why it makes little sense to keep both.

Really, I don't think Thomas has done anything in the preseason to either get himself cut or to make the team. I think this is more about Banks. Does Shanahan want to employ a 5th/6th WR whose primary value is that he's blindingly fast? Or does he push the specialist to the practice squad to take the more complete player, Thomas.

The biggest thing that came from last nights game was that the third option, keeping both and cutting Austin, is not much of a choice. Austin is now at least as much of a lock as Galloway, and probably more. Austin could be our no. 3 WR as soon as next year.

banks has put the ball on the ground more times than he's done anything significant with it. add to that his ridiculously small size and its hard to make a case for his presence on the team. a guy his size isnt going to last more than one or two years in the league, especially if he's constantly getting leveled on punt returns. if banks had run 2 returns for TDs in the preseason, had consistently yielded returns of 25+ yards while not putting the ball on the ground once, could contribute to offense, and the team had no other viable return options, i could see us keeping him on the team. but he's clearly not worth a space on the 53 man roster, let alone a spot as one of the 45 eligible to play on gamedays. personally, i wouldnt even waste a practice squad spot on him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

banks has put the ball on the ground more times than he's done anything significant with it. add to that his ridiculously small size and its hard to make a case for his presence on the team. a guy his size isnt going to last more than one or two years in the league, especially if he's constantly getting leveled on punt returns. if banks had run 2 returns for TDs in the preseason, had consistently yielded returns of 25+ yards while not putting the ball on the ground once, could contribute to offense, and the team had no other viable return options, i could see us keeping him on the team. but he's clearly not worth a space on the 53 man roster, let alone a spot as one of the 45 eligible to play on gamedays. personally, i wouldnt even waste a practice squad spot on him.

Well, ultimately, Shanahan still has to cut him. Certainly, he started as a long shot to make the roster, and probably is still something of a long shot. I don't know what he's actually planning to do with Brandon Banks on this team, but the cut down is 24 hours away. If you think the decision to cut him has already been made, well, I don't think that's the case.

Someone is going to get cut though, so that's probably Banks until further notice. Again, I've broken down the roster, and I don't think there's a lot of reason to keep both Banks and Thomas (they might, if the receivers on the waiver wire are unimpressive). And I think the decision just has most to do with what they think Banks can be on this team than anything Thomas is/can be.

[MTK]

I just don't see how you can keep Banks considering how careless he's been with the ball. I'd put him on the practice squad. Considering how thin the WRs are I can't see cutting Thomas either.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I just don't see how you can keep Banks considering how careless he's been with the ball. I'd put him on the practice squad. Considering how thin the WRs are I can't see cutting Thomas either.

It's a concern no doubt but you'd hate to expose him on the practice squad and then see him lighting it up somewhere once he gets past this bout of fumblitis.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

It's a concern no doubt but you'd hate to expose him on the practice squad and then see him lighting it up somewhere once he gets past this bout of fumblitis.

That's the chance you take. I'd rather roll the dice and put him on the PS than use a roster spot on him when he can't be trusted to hold on to the ball yet.

I don't think he's that huge of a risk to be signed to someone's active roster considering his size and current fumble issues.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I just don't see how you can keep Banks considering how careless he's been with the ball. I'd put him on the practice squad. Considering how thin the WRs are I can't see cutting Thomas either.

If you take away Thomas' pedigree as a 2nd round pick.. would he make the team in your opinion? He hasn't done a thing that would make him a lock in my opinion...

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

If you take away Thomas' pedigree as a 2nd round pick.. would he make the team in your opinion? He hasn't done a thing that would make him a lock in my opinion...

He played like a second round pick receiver last year, especially during the Saints game. He still has a lot of potential, and between him and Banks, I'm cutting Banks because he so two-sided of a player.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

If you take away Thomas' pedigree as a 2nd round pick.. would he make the team in your opinion? He hasn't done a thing that would make him a lock in my opinion...

Considering our current group of WRs, regardless of where he was taken yes he makes the team. I really don't see what he's done, or hasn't done this preseason, to be cut. And I'm certainly not keeping Banks over him.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

If you take away Thomas' pedigree as a 2nd round pick.. would he make the team in your opinion? He hasn't done a thing that would make him a lock in my opinion...

Other than being the most talented guy we have that is.

Look he has the best combo of speed and size on the team. He isn't a drop machine despite the revisionism that is going on here. The knock on him has always been just focusing and going about his job in a pro manner. Honestly the only WR I keep over him is Moss. The guy deserves one more chance to make it work in a real offense with real coaches. Just based on his potential we'd be morons to cut him.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Other than being the most talented guy we have that is.

Look he has the best combo of speed and size on the team. He isn't a drop machine despite the revisionism that is going on here. The knock on him has always been just focusing and going about his job in a pro manner. Honestly the only WR I keep over him is Moss. The guy deserves one more chance to make it work in a real offense with real coaches. Just based on his potential we'd be morons to cut him.

Route running matters more to a WR because it makes up 80-90% of why they get separation. Chad Ochocinco certainly knows about it, and I'm not about to question his expertise.
Physical gifts are is nice, but not having the right "instincts" and body control is why Devin is going to be mediocre or just "good depth" instead of a great WR.