Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Wilson: Vincent Jackson trial set for April | National Football Post

Found this. It looks as though he is facing 2 games for getting a DUS ( driving under suspension ). He got pulled by the cops before the Chargers playoff loss to the Jets. OF course since he already has 2 duis under his belt, he had a suspended license for the offenses. This is standard practice for most states when you get a DUI. So this is were the supension is coming from. The guy needs to quit driving and doing stupid shit. You would think guys would learn after the first time.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Another issue that needs to be raised is how in the hell are we going to be able to sign McNabb, Jackson, and Brown to long term deals?

I would like to keep all of these guys on the team long term not just one year rentals.

Jackson will want a big deal right away. At least what BM got in MIA.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Another issue that needs to be raised is how in the hell are we going to be able to sign McNabb, Jackson, and Brown to long term deals?

I would like to keep all of these guys on the team long term not just one year rentals.

Jackson will want a big deal right away. At least what BM got in MIA.

With the labor turmoil in the upcoming offseason, I don't think those contracts are going to be addressed until there is a clearer picture of the new CBA/cap structure.

[SmootSmack]

I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another WR potentially (no inside info here, just guessing) but I doubt it will be Vincent Jackson

[Hamoskinz]

Trading for Mcnabb and Jammal Brown were good trades because QB & OT are pivotal positions in a football team, our especially considering how our offense stunk last year.

Now VJ is a good pass catcher, making some great leaping end zone TDs but I'm against trading picks since we are 2 short already. We were 4-12 last year, and alot of important positions on the team are up in age like QB, C, MLB, NT etc... and we need picks to replenish depth.

WR is my eyes are more of a luxury than dire need. The addition of McNabb at QB and Brown & Williams into line protection will see our offense improve over last year and make our WRs look good.

I'm sure next year there will be a ton of FA WRs, which we can throw $$$ at without losing picks in the process.

My 2 sene.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

^^ I tend to agree with you Hamo. I think this is just something else to get us fans excited. we can all dream about addin this player and that and how it will effect us in the short term, but I seem to miss the big picture as far as the future at times.

[GusFrerotte]

To build a team over the long haul we need to keep our top picks. Why go for Jackson if we can target a great WR in the first round or two next season that will stay around for awhile for lesser cost to the franchise? Multiple picks for a guy, however good he is, is not warranted. Hamo is right, we have too many holes still to plug in the lines still, plus LB and DB. Fletch might decide to retire after this season or next. LB is going to be a top need for us ASAP. We have already given up a lot for both McNabb and Brown. I like the FA moves, in that they have been smart and have addressed needs, but we still are almost exclusively using FA to build a team.

[Dirtbag59]

Let's just wait till next year to draft Julio Jones or Malcolm Floyd.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Let's just wait till next year to draft Julio Jones or Malcolm Floyd.

Or A.J. Green (aren't you in Georgia?).

Phenomenal underclassman in college football this year. If we don't acquire a big name receiver, it seems like a virtual certainty we'll take a big name player in the first round next year. And I honestly think we'll probably get a no. 2 receiver out of Malcolm Kelly, starting this year with a 600 yard, 4 TD season. At least, that's my prediction.

600/4 doesn't get you very far if you don't have a guy who can do 850/8 on a yearly basis on the outside. Add ten more TDs from Cooley/Davis and now you have 22 passing TDs split amongst just your top four guys, which is excellent production. Just add some competent backups and that's a top ten passing offense.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Or A.J. Green (aren't you in Georgia?).

Phenomenal underclassman in college football this year. If we don't acquire a big name receiver, it seems like a virtual certainty we'll take a big name player in the first round next year. And I honestly think we'll probably get a no. 2 receiver out of Malcolm Kelly, starting this year with a 600 yard, 4 TD season. At least, that's my prediction.

600/4 doesn't get you very far if you don't have a guy who can do 850/8 on a yearly basis on the outside. Add ten more TDs from Cooley/Davis and now you have 22 passing TDs split amongst just your top four guys, which is excellent production. Just add some competent backups and that's a top ten passing offense.

Exactly why I didn't mention him. All indications have him going in the top 5 next year though I must admit his numbers leave something to be desiered.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Exactly why I didn't mention him. All indications have him going in the top 5 next year though I must admit his numbers leave something to be desiered.

Haven't looked at his numbers, so I'll take your word for it.

Honestly, I don't even go to college numbers until a guy starts talking about making a jump to the NFL, because guys who look totally lost in his first two seasons sometimes kill it for their last two (not unlike the NFL). And, in the case of Rex Grossman (and others), vice versa. What Green does this year is going to determine more than half of his NFL (draft) player profile, so hopefully, he tears up the SEC this year, and is around when we pick.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

To build a team over the long haul we need to keep our top picks. Why go for Jackson if we can target a great WR in the first round or two next season that will stay around for awhile for lesser cost to the franchise? Multiple picks for a guy, however good he is, is not warranted. Hamo is right, we have too many holes still to plug in the lines still, plus LB and DB. Fletch might decide to retire after this season or next. LB is going to be a top need for us ASAP. We have already given up a lot for both McNabb and Brown. I like the FA moves, in that they have been smart and have addressed needs, but we still are almost exclusively using FA to build a team.

Yep you are right in that LB is a big need for this team moving forward as well as DL next years draft. We have alot of age and people playing out of position in both of those positions.


One of the problems I have with drafting WR is we never draft them well at all.

Now maybe that will change with MS and BA in charge, but drafting WR is a gamble in my opinion. I like grabbing proven guys from FA when it comes to this position.

[GTripp0012]

It should also be noted that Marshall's Blache-adjusted TD total in 2010 is just 8. Landry/Smoot/Hall/Rogers combined to allow him to have his only two TD receptions on "long" passes last year by showing him enough respect to *not* cover him. At all.

[GTripp0012]

Go west, fat guy.

[81forHOF]

Jacksons stats his first 2 years in the league = 30 catches, 500 yds, 6TDs

Devin Thomas's stats after 2 years = 40 catches, 425 yards, 4 TDS

for all we know we already have a player better than him on our roster - one that we already spent a draft pick on. Groom our own players!