Big Al suspended for the remainder of season

[Monkeydad]

Was this mentioned in here yet? Doesn't surprise me if true.

Twitter / Kelli Johnson: Several team sources tell ...


What a waste of talent.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Buster

Was this mentioned in here yet? Doesn't surprise me if true.

Twitter / Kelli Johnson: Several team sources tell ...


What a waste of talent.

Welcome to late Monday afternoon.

That was what spurred Al's response to J. Reid and on the radio last night.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Welcome to late Monday afternoon.

That was what spurred Al's response to J. Reid and on the radio last night.

Haven't been on since Friday. :cheeky-sm

[mooby]

Well now we have an idea of where Fat Albert was on Thursday night. And there's photographic evidence too!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well now we have an idea of where Fat Albert was on Thursday night. And there's photographic evidence too!

I really don't care if the guy goes out and has a couple drinks. John Riggins would go our and get drunk and so did Sonny Jurgenson and both are in the HOF.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't care if the guy goes out and has a couple drinks. John Riggins would go our and get drunk and so did Sonny Jurgenson and both are in the HOF.

Well I never said having a drink is bad, but when you are apparantly drunk at 1:30 in the morning and you have to be at practice in the morning, it doesn't create a good impression.

This ain't the 80's anymore, and Joe Gibbs is not our coach. He put up with it knowing Riggins would give his best on the field, and that is not something Haynesworth is known for. Our current head coach preaches accountability, responsibility, and practicing good before you can play. So why would you want to be out at 1:30 in the morning knowing you have to have a good practice in order to play? That just screams Haynesworth doesn't give a f.

Btw please don't compare Sonny Jurgensen and John Riggins to Albert Haynesworth. He may have the talent to be a HOFer, but he sure as hell doesn't have the right mentality. This isn't 20 years ago, and you can't just get away with behaving like an idiot and expecting people not to treat you like one.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well I never said having a drink is bad, but when you are apparantly drunk at 1:30 in the morning and you have to be at practice in the morning, it doesn't create a good impression.

This ain't the 80's anymore, and Joe Gibbs is not our coach. He put up with it knowing Riggins would give his best on the field, and that is not something Haynesworth is known for. Our current head coach preaches accountability, responsibility, and practicing good before you can play. So why would you want to be out at 1:30 in the morning knowing you have to have a good practice in order to play? That just screams Haynesworth doesn't give a f.

Btw please don't compare Sonny Jurgensen and John Riggins to Albert Haynesworth. He may have the talent to be a HOFer, but he sure as hell doesn't have the right mentality. This isn't 20 years ago, and you can't just get away with behaving like an idiot and expecting people not to treat you like one.

Do you honestly think I'm comparing those guys to AH?????????? C'mon.. And there is no proof that he was out that late. What I'm saying is it's not a big deal to go out and have a few drinks and be a professional athlete. I'd be willing to bet that AH wasn't the only guy to go out on Thurs. in the NFL. Get my point?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Do you honestly think I'm comparing those guys to AH?????????? C'mon.. And there is no proof that he was out that late. What I'm saying is it's not a big deal to go out and have a few drinks and be a professional athlete. I'd be willing to bet that AH wasn't the only guy to go out on Thurs. in the NFL. Get my point?

Look my whole point is this isn't the 80's anymore, and it's not the drink thing that matters, it's the whole staying out late and drinking thing that does. NFL guys drink during the season, that's completely obvious, but how many guys do you see out on a weeknight (not even a friday night) around midnight being plastered? I trust the guys' judgement who wrote in to Deadspin a lot more than I trust Haynesworth's. I'd bet that 90% or more of the players on our rosters were at home past midnight on a Thursday night, either sleeping or doing something not stupid like going out bar hopping to get your drink on.

Would you go bar hopping past midnight on a Thursday night if you had to be at work early the next morning?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't care if the guy goes out and has a couple drinks. John Riggins would go our and get drunk and so did Sonny Jurgenson and both are in the HOF.

IMO it is a pattern and practice of lying to skins reps/coaches that is the problem, not the couple of drinks.

You look like a liar when you have a "bad" practice thursday, have drinks until atleast 1:30 am, then say you are sick and cant practice friday.

[12thMan]

[QUOTE=over the mountain;766636]IMO it is a pattern and practice of lying to skins reps/coaches that is the problem, not the couple of drinks.

You look like a liar when you have a "bad" practice thursday, have drinks until atleast 1:30 am, then say you are sick and cant practice friday.[/QUOTE

You sure Al was out until 1:30 am? Both Al and the bartender said he was done well before 12:30.

In terms of him being sick, well the team doctor treated AH from what I understand.

[over the mountain]

[quote=12thMan;766649]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

IMO it is a pattern and practice of lying to skins reps/coaches that is the problem, not the couple of drinks.

You look like a liar when you have a "bad" practice thursday, have drinks until atleast 1:30 am, then say you are sick and cant practice friday.[/QUOTE

You sure Al was out until 1:30 am? Both Al and the bartender said he was done well before 12:30.

In terms of him being sick, well the team doctor treated AH from what I understand.

i was just going of what was reported and from the post in this thread with pictures. generally i would take into account a person's version, however at this point with him I dont put any weight to his own self-serving interest statements.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I really don't care if the guy goes out and has a couple drinks. John Riggins would go our and get drunk and so did Sonny Jurgenson and both are in the HOF.

Different times my friend ............

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well now we have an idea of where Fat Albert was on Thursday night. And there's photographic evidence too!

skinsfan69 - there is proof that AH was out with drink in hand at 1:30 am, its really just a matter of how much weigh and credibility to put towards it.

what mooby posted plus kelli johnsons tweet that "several team sources" said he was hungover.

i dont have a problem with a player having a drink or two, i would prefer they wouldnt during the season, especially towards the end of the work week . . . .what really really gets me is lying. i abhor lying, deceit and less than truthfulness done by any person in any situation. honestly, thats why i waited for the police to arrest me when i ran onto the field during the Os opening day. i could have jumped back into the stands and try and run off but thats just not me. if i do something, i accept the responsibilities. i realize i have a special sensitivity to lying and not being honest, i was the only person here who was upset with the skins tampering with AH. im still alil disappointed in some of you all by deflecting and justifying the actions with statements like everyone does it, etc. idk, im all hopped up on pain killers just got back from the hospital alil bit ago. surgery went well but im loopy right now.

[SmootSmack]

This was a move that unfortunately had to be made. Everyone in the league, and I assume Vinny as well, knows (knew?) that Haynewsorth tends to march to his own drummer. But Sherman Smith, among others, vouched for Albert and said that if you could put up with a little hiccup here and there he was worth it.

This has gone way beyond a little hiccup.

[Longtimefan]

The ultimate conclusion to a stubborn impasse. We won't be any better with or without him.