rebuilding or FA frenzy?

[mooby]

Isn't it a little early to claim that Luck will go #1? He could have a horrible season, he could get injured, he could pull a "Locker." it might turn out his success came from having Harbaugh as his head coach, anything could happen. We do need a qb but its obvious from previous SB winners it doesn't have to be a can't miss prospect.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Isn't it a little early to claim that Luck will go #1? He could have a horrible season, he could get injured, he could pull a "Locker." it might turn out his success came from having Harbaugh as his head coach, anything could happen. We do need a qb but its obvious from previous SB winners it doesn't have to be a can't miss prospect.

Nope, Skinster said he goes 1, so number 1 it is. You need to remember he cares smarter that everybody.

[Daseal]

I agree with the youth movement. The best way to get (most) players and positions settled is to let them play. There has to be a certain amount of leadership and mentoring that happens with the vets. Film study, work ethic, smarts, etc should be instilled in the young guns, but give them significant playing time. Design more plays for the young guys, etc.

If given two scenarios:
Scenario A. 2011: 9-7 2012: 9-7
Scenario B. 2011: 5-11 2012: 13-3

Same number of games won over a two year period, but one looks significantly better than the other. Do what we need to do now to get a young base, then grow from there. We've tried this semi-rebuilding bullshit before and it has us where we are now. Lets bust it down, get rid of the mentality around Redskins park and start fresh.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree with the youth movement. The best way to get (most) players and positions settled is to let them play. There has to be a certain amount of leadership and mentoring that happens with the vets. Film study, work ethic, smarts, etc should be instilled in the young guns, but give them significant playing time. Design more plays for the young guys, etc.

If given two scenarios:
Scenario A. 2011: 9-7 2012: 9-7
Scenario B. 2011: 5-11 2012: 13-3

Same number of games won over a two year period, but one looks significantly better than the other. Do what we need to do now to get a young base, then grow from there. We've tried this semi-rebuilding bullshit before and it has us where we are now. Lets bust it down, get rid of the mentality around Redskins park and start fresh.

I think most fans would take B.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree with the youth movement. The best way to get (most) players and positions settled is to let them play. There has to be a certain amount of leadership and mentoring that happens with the vets. Film study, work ethic, smarts, etc should be instilled in the young guns, but give them significant playing time. Design more plays for the young guys, etc.

If given two scenarios:
Scenario A. 2011: 9-7 2012: 9-7
Scenario B. 2011: 5-11 2012: 13-3

Same number of games won over a two year period, but one looks significantly better than the other. Do what we need to do now to get a young base, then grow from there. We've tried this semi-rebuilding bullshit before and it has us where we are now. Lets bust it down, get rid of the mentality around Redskins park and start fresh.

Good post. I think the majority of fans will be patient w/ this FO and Shanahan. There will be those fans who will go on the radio and/blogs and blast us if we lose 10 games this year, but they are the minority. The Skins should get younger and should try to build this thing right. Most fans will realize that it isn't done overnight, it's going to take a few years.

[skinsfaninok]

@ Slingin Sammy

You forgot to add Sam Bradford to that list, I think Sam is better than Luck and will be for their entire careers just watch. He took a horrible Rams team from 1-15 to 7-9 I mean can Luck do that? I doubt it.

As a Freshman at OU Sam had 36 Tds to 8 Int's, in his second year he helped set a College football record for most points scored for a team in a season. 50 Td passes to 8 Ints. He could have won back to back Heismans if he didn't get hurt in his JR season. He is as often compared to Peyton Manning which says a lot obviously. Luck had a damn good season last year but let's see what he does this season before we jump the gun

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

@ Slingin Sammy

You forgot to add Sam Bradford to that list, I think Sam is better than Luck and will be for their entire careers just watch. He took a horrible Rams team from 1-15 to 7-9 I mean can Luck do that? I doubt it.

I didn't forget Bradford. I don't see him as a multiple Pro Bowl QB that elavates his team. Do I see him growing into a solid starter, yes.

Bradford didn't "take" STL to 7-9. The improved defense and weak schedule did that. The Rams were 26th in scoring Off and 12th is scoring D. Bradford's QB rate was only 76.5. Who did the Rams beat; Skins, SEA, SD, CAR, DEN, AZ, SF. One playoff team, who went at 7-9.

I know you're a Bradford homer, and that's OK. I'm a ND fan who still supports Clausen. We'll come back to this thread in a 2-3 years.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I didn't forget Bradford. I don't see him as a multiple Pro Bowl QB that elavates his team. Do I see him growing into a solid starter, yes.

Bradford didn't "take" STL to 7-9. The improved defense and weak schedule did that. The Rams were 26th in scoring Off and 12th is scoring D. Bradford's QB rate was only 76.5. Who did the Rams beat; Skins, SEA, SD, CAR, DEN, AZ, SF. One playoff team, who went at 7-9.

I know you're a Bradford homer, and that's OK. I'm a ND fan who still supports Clausen. We'll come back to this thread in a 2-3 years.

lol ok fair enough my man

[MTK]

Bradford did a great job last year but I didn't see him as a guy that necessarily elevated the team or carried them either. They were pretty conservative with him and didn't ask him to do much, smartly so. Could he end up being a star gunslinger that can carry a team? Sure, but last year he was more of a game manager and I'm not saying that as a bad thing. I thought the Rams handled him very well.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Bradford did a great job last year but I didn't see him as a guy that necessarily elevated the team or carried them either. They were pretty conservative with him and didn't ask him to do much, smartly so. Could he end up being a star gunslinger that can carry a team? Sure, but last year he was more of a game manager and I'm not saying that as a bad thing. I thought the Rams handled him very well.

He had some chances to make big time plays but you have to remember how horrible his receiving corps was/is. NTM their OLine isn't anything special either, I do agree with your post though.

[SirClintonPortis]

I think Bradford deserves a wait-and-see. The Rams WR crop was basically all Amendola once Clayton went down. Opposing defenders could "cheat" because they had absolutely no deep threat.

[Alvin Walton]

Can we get a better fullback?
Sellers is older than some of the trees in my yard.

[Monkeydad]

Actually, I liked Darrel Young...he has potential.