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Old 10-06-2011, 01:10 AM   #1
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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Kerrigan = big motor, Rak = big ability. Both are beasts, but my gut is Kerrigan outplays his physical talent by being smart / being relentless. Some of his plays are on second efforts and recognizing throwing situations, etc. Both in ProBowl for years to come.


More important than this argument is -- the success draft/FA. I'm VERY pleased at all the hits on our new players, as well as getting more out of the existing players. A far cry from seeing Portis sip cocktails with Snyder. The big misses on McNabb and struggles with Haynesworth are long forgotten.

If Shanny keeps this up, we're definitely competing for the SB in 2 years. Currently we're 3-1, but can't see us competing with teams like Green Bay yet - but with a better offense anything is possible.

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yeah, I agree with that, but not the order. I think QB and CB are more important than MLB and OLine. MLB is a need, but not a big one, with Rocky showing that he's worth keeping and the ageless london fletcher still there. I think we can milk out one more year with London. The only MLB I'd take is Burfict. Where as next year you have Barkley, Cousins, Foles, Robert Griffin, and Landry Jones coming out as your QB's. CB is a need, and there are some great CB's in this class as well. Cliff Harris of oregon, Gilmore South Carolina, Hosely of VT, Claiborne for LSU, Dennard for Nebraska, Jenkins who was on Florida but is now with North Alabama, and Dre Kirkpatrick.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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yeah, I agree with that, but not the order. I think QB and CB are more important than MLB and OLine. MLB is a need, but not a big one, with Rocky showing that he's worth keeping and the ageless london fletcher still there. I think we can milk out one more year with London. The only MLB I'd take is Burfict. Where as next year you have Barkley, Cousins, Foles, Robert Griffin, and Landry Jones coming out as your QB's. CB is a need, and there are some great CB's in this class as well. Cliff Harris of oregon, Gilmore South Carolina, Hosely of VT, Claiborne for LSU, Dennard for Nebraska, Jenkins who was on Florida but is now with North Alabama, and Dre Kirkpatrick.
Did you purposely leave Luck off of that list since it does not look like there is any chance we get him?
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:30 PM   #3
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Did you purposely leave Luck off of that list since it does not look like there is any chance we get him?
yep. Face it the lowest he goes is #2 if a team like St. Louis picks first. He can probably tear his ACL or throw picks for the rest of the year and still be a first rounder. He's just that much of a lock. We'd have to lose out all our games to get him...and that still may not be enough. So yes I left him off for an obvious reason.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

Since we are talking about that side of the ball.....

did any of you hear the Sports Junkies talking about statistics either yesterday or the day before? The Redskins right now have a #3 ranked defense. Obviously it will change some when we start with our hardest part of our schedule, but they said teams that have a top 8 defense get to the pale-offs 90% of the time. Teams with a top 5 defense get to the pale-offs 100% of the time.

They also pointed out that the Skins have 5 difficult games to play yet and 4 games which should be somewhat easy or atleast they should win. I'm not saying they are SB bound for those who will choose to twist my words, I'm simply saying they have a good chance to make the play-offs and hopefully next year.... year 3 for the coaching staff, they can make the big run at the SB. If the team does better then expected this year then awesome.
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Since we are talking about that side of the ball.....

did any of you hear the Sports Junkies talking about statistics either yesterday or the day before? The Redskins right now have a #3 ranked defense. Obviously it will change some when we start with our hardest part of our schedule, but they said teams that have a top 8 defense get to the pale-offs 90% of the time. Teams with a top 5 defense get to the pale-offs 100% of the time.

They also pointed out that the Skins have 5 difficult games to play yet and 4 games which should be somewhat easy or atleast they should win. I'm not saying they are SB bound for those who will choose to twist my words, I'm simply saying they have a good chance to make the play-offs and hopefully next year.... year 3 for the coaching staff, they can make the big run at the SB. If the team does better then expected this year then awesome.
First off, when you start by saying the junkies said, your already wrong. Those guys are fun as hell to listen too, but they are so dumb when it comes to life. If they said what you just posted that they have the number 3 ranked D in the league, their wrong. It's 5th. We're third in scoring defense though if thats what they meant.
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First off, when you start by saying the junkies said, your already wrong. Those guys are fun as hell to listen too, but they are so dumb when it comes to life. If they said what you just posted that they have the number 3 ranked D in the league, their wrong. It's 5th. We're third in scoring defense though if thats what they meant.
Yes they confused everyone with the whole subject but in the end we are a top 5 defense. Top 8 has a 90% chance of making the play offs. Having said that they also pointed out that the Skins are only 4 games in and a long road to go with some tough teams.
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Yes they confused everyone with the whole subject but in the end we are a top 5 defense. Top 8 has a 90% chance of making the play offs. Having said that they also pointed out that the Skins are only 4 games in and a long road to go with some tough teams.
Yep December will be especially tough.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

pale-offs?

Is that like a beer competition?
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pale-offs?

Is that like a beer competition?
Purposefull mispelling. I thought it was on this board maybe elsewhere, there was a thread "The pale offs are now". or something to that effect. Supposed to be funny.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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pale-offs?

Is that like a beer competition?
No, its like when the Redskins kill off all the pale faces.
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Ah.

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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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Ah.

It's an ES thing.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

Kerrackpo + DJ Gomes + Hall + Wilson + Otogwe + Coefield + Weild + Bowen + Jenkins = STRONG DEFENSE IN 2012 ..WE JUST NEED OFFENSE TO CATCH UP, SIMPLY PUT A FRANCHISE QB
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

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Kerrackpo + DJ Gomes + Hall + Wilson + Otogwe + Coefield + Weild + Bowen + Jenkins = STRONG DEFENSE IN 2012 ..WE JUST NEED OFFENSE TO CATCH UP, SIMPLY PUT A FRANCHISE QB
I would erase Hall from your list cause he SUCKS and add OL depth cause they need it badly.
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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

Couldn't watch the game today, but as recently as two weeks ago I came to the same conclusion. Kerrigan plays the run so much better than Orakpo. Orakpo looks at the run as something he has to put up with in order to rush the passer, and Kerrigan takes both seriously. Plus Kerrigan is definitely more effective, he already has more sacks in his career against NFCE opponents than Orakpo does in his career.
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