To Read Option, or Not

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

That is what I got from it. My mom always told me when we go to the zoo that I shouldn't feed the bears. She never said what to do with the goats. I may need to call her later tonight.

The student has surpassed the teacher. Wise words my friend. Wise words

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What the hell is your stupid point? That teams shouldn't utilize their players' full talents? That offensive concepts shouldn't evolve?

Using your franchise QB as a running QB is what's stupid. Again, there's a reason you don't see it. Even with the Vick example, who did NOT suffer near the injuries RG has, no other HC/FO in pro football has used their franchise QB the way shanahan uses RG.

What amazes me, is after a season of horrific injuries (to RG) folks are still homers for the status quo. It just seems like common sense to limit the number of hits to this guy who we mortgaged the future on. I mean, answer me this: is it your opinion we cannot compete with a traditional offense? Why else would you risk your QB?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Using your franchise QB as a running QB is what's stupid. Again, there's a reason you don't see it. Even with the Vick example, who did NOT suffer near the injuries RG has, no other HC/FO in pro football has used their franchise QB the way shanahan uses RG.

What amazes me, is after a season of horrific injuries (to RG) folks are still homers for the status quo. It just seems like common sense to limit the number of hits to this guy who we mortgaged the future on. I mean, answer me this: is it your opinion we cannot compete with a traditional offense? Why else would you risk your QB?

No comment

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No comment

LOL. I can agree to disagree.

Context is also important here. You don't hear many positive comments about us (Shanny especially) outside Skins fandom, which for me is basically just this board. Last night is a good example. Watched the draft with a houseful of football buddies plus wives and girlfriends. Cowboys fans. Steelers. Saints. Seahawks. Broncos. The few times a convo turned toward the Skins there was a single theme: "What the eff are the Redskins/Shanahans thinking?" About the read-option. About keeping RG on the field after the Baltimore injury, and most especially in the playoff game. Literally, every person at the house, and every football fan I've ever chatted with outside this board, thought keeping RG in that game was/is the most appalling decision/behavior they've seen by a coach anywhere (pro, college, other sports).

I'd like to think my views are pretty reasonable, given I listen to a lot of different perspectives and avoid a "bubble" experience.

I guess my bottom line: if we continue to use RG as a running QB the likelihood he plays a long, healthy career isn't good.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I guess my bottom line: if we continue to use RG as a running QB the likelihood he plays a long, healthy career isn't good.

If we refuse to utilize his skill-set to the fullest, the likelihood that the team is successful is limited.

He's not a running QB, Vick was a running QB. Unlike Vick, Griffin is also one of the most accurate passers in the NFL and can beat teams on the ground and in the air. He's not a running QB, he's a QB who can run. It's more than semantics. There's a huge difference.

If Conan did his "If they mated" bit with Chris Johnson and Peyton Manning, RGIII would be the answer. The way Robert led the offense to a winning TD all by himself in just his fourth game in the NFL after they turned off his headset...that's leadership and poise like Manning, but with world class speed.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I guess my bottom line: if we continue to use RG as a running QB the likelihood he plays a long, healthy career isn't good.

RGIII was injured (or worsening of an injury) 4 times last year by my count.

1. vs. Atlanta
2. vs. Baltimore
3. vs. Seattle (2nd TD drive)
4. vs. Seattle (end of the game)

Since you watched every play of every game last year, can you tell us what each play was and how Griffin got hurt?

To your team building strategy of building a formidable line, neither Shanahan will ever have a traditional drop back passing game that a 'formidable line' suits. They have, with the exception of a needed upgrade at RT, a good line for the offense. The running game will continue to be the engine and this year, expect to see RGIII in more of the style that Cousins played in vs. Cleveland and what the offense was prior to last season.

The QB who you keep describing isn't RGIII, it's Michael Vick..

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Using your franchise QB as a running QB is what's stupid. Again, there's a reason you don't see it. Even with the Vick example, who did NOT suffer near the injuries RG has, no other HC/FO in pro football has used their franchise QB the way shanahan uses RG.

What amazes me, is after a season of horrific injuries (to RG) folks are still homers for the status quo. It just seems like common sense to limit the number of hits to this guy who we mortgaged the future on. I mean, answer me this: is it your opinion we cannot compete with a traditional offense? Why else would you risk your QB?

[CrustyRedskin]

Run and Shoot anyone?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Run and Shoot anyone?

No need to threaten anyone over internet postings.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Run and Shoot anyone?

Nah. Wasn't the old Houston Oilers one of the last teams to run that offense? I like the read option because it's highly successful and puts all types of stress on a defense.

[MTK]

Don't get sucked into the vortex.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Don't get sucked into the vortex.

You'll notice I am still sitting quietly in the corner. I concede, however, that I am pointing and laughing at a certain someone's devotion to stupidity.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

... If people don't see this, and call what we did a "gimmick" instead, they are not appreciating the game of football. Or Kyle for that matter. What a shame.

Clearly, you know nothing about football.

[FRPLG]

Ahhhh wrong thread

[FRPLG]

Same