New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .

[tshile]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

San Francisco 49ers game costs family of four an NFL-high average of $641 - ESPN

Who's going to be able to afford to go if/when it's built?

This is why I get so mad with the fan base.... majority of the people talking about how Fedex sucks and how badly the Redskins need a new stadium seem to be people that don't actually go to the stadium or plan on going to the new one... They completely overlook what the actual season ticket holders and stadium goers are worried about - the price...

I haven't talked to a single ticket holder about the new stadium stuff that hasn't immediately said, in some sort of fashion, that they think this will be the end of their run as a ticket holder.

Snyder talks about bouncing seats and designing it like RFK - restoring the atmosphere. I can't tell if he actually understands the problems with the FedEx atmosphere and how to fix it or not...

He comes off as thinking it's about the stadium design.... but I think if you asked people that actually go to the games, they'd list (in order):
- Pricing out the average fan in favor of the wine-and-cheese/corporate crowd
- Not putting a winning team on the field.

One of those he can directly control, the other he can't. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. The Browns have bailed on PSLs. I hope other teams follow suit.

It's possible the best thing to happen to Redskins ticket holders is that the stadium be delayed as much as possible, to let the PSL fad run its course and die the death it deserves...

[Paul Nichols]

Where are they proposing this new stadium be located? And why do they need a new one ALREADY? FedEx isn't even 20 years old, is it?

I've never been to Fed Ex; have heard nothing but horror stories about the traffic - like the old days of trying to exit the Capital Centre. But man, the good times we had in there...

Obviously, there's got to be a financial incentive to Snyder on this; what's his angle?

[MTK]

A new stadium is years away from happening. There's a 30 year lease on FedEx. 13 years to go.

[Hog1]

Oh hell, I was thinking like next season.......
At least we have a first round pick to look forward to

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Oh hell, I was thinking like next season.......
At least we have a first round pick to look forward to

Since we'll have the 32nd pick, we might as well trade back.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A new stadium is years away from happening. There's a 30 year lease on FedEx. 13 years to go.

From what I understand, it won't be very difficult to break the lease early

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I understand, it won't be very difficult to break the lease early

From my understand the Skins would have to repay all the money for the infrastructure if the lease is broken but my question is again what do you do with Fed Ex ?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

San Francisco 49ers game costs family of four an NFL-high average of $641 - ESPN

Who's going to be able to afford to go if/when it's built?

Season tickets holders also usually buy parking pass's and the pre-season games .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

From my understand the Skins would have to repay all the money for the infrastructure if the lease is broken but my question is again what do you do with Fed Ex ?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Paul Nichols

Where are they proposing this new stadium be located? And why do they need a new one ALREADY? FedEx isn't even 20 years old, is it?

I've never been to Fed Ex; have heard nothing but horror stories about the traffic - like the old days of trying to exit the Capital Centre. But man, the good times we had in there...

Obviously, there's got to be a financial incentive to Snyder on this; what's his angle?

bringing back some good times .... went to every caps game from about '85 to '95. dale hunter's overtime breakaway goal against hextel in game 7? when we scored with 20 seconds left to tie it? that place was bananas.

fed ex truly does suck for fan experience. i havent been in 2 years now but if your seats are in the upper deck you literally cant see the ball if it is thrown in the air. you are so high up, birds are actually flying underneath you. if we are playing the giants, its like watching red dots play blue dots.

if you sit on the lower seats and stand when the D is on the field, an usher will very quickly tell you to sit down (bc some rich old guy complained). when i was sitting in the lower level i had to fight to allowed to stand on 3rd down stands.

getting in or out is ridiculous. parking is so expensive, last i parked it cost me $25 to park literally a mile from the stadium. a freaking mile! and i have to pay for such accommodation?

im going to 1 game this year but i honestly wouldnt go if someone gave me free tickets. it sucks that bad.

[tshile]

for what it's worth, i've been going to every game for quite a while and will do so again this year.

i don't have an issue with traffice. I show up early and don't try to jump on 495 like 80% of the people leaving the stadium. It takes me an 1:10 to get from my house to my parking spot and 1:20 to get from my seat to my driveway.

the sit down/stand up argument is an old one my position is that the average football iq of stadium goers at fedex is too low and it causes problems. it's one thing to stand on big moments of the game - hell I do it. but the way the stadium is designed if a person stands all game (and many do) the **entire section** has to stand the whole game. go to 8 games a year, year after year, and let me know how long it takes you to start to think that one guy that's there for his one game a year is ruining it for everyone else. standing all game every game isn't the end of the world, but it's really annoying when you pay enough attention and realize it winds up being an entire section inconvenienced by one person...

the parking situation sucks but it's not entirely Snyder's fault. The infrastructure was part of PG county's job, and PG County is the one that decided to take away the bus system for metro riders.

every time i talk to someone about their complaints it almost always boils down to them being a novice and not really understanding things. which can be a bad mark on the stadium itself, but you also have to understand the area. traffic sucks period. try going to a nats/caps game in your car. let me know how that works out. every game i zoom by people waiting to get off at arena drive - traffic backed up onto 495. i go up to my exit and in 10 minutes i'm unloading my car. those people aren't even on the grounds yet. i kind of feel bad for them. kind of. there's guides to getting in and out of that stadium all over the internet, if you can't be bothered to look them up and figure it out then enjoy waiting in traffic.

my biggest complaints are they priced out too many people. when you look around it seems like you see a bunch of drunk 20 somethings that have disposable income to blow on a game or two a year or your have someone that's not even a fan and got tickets from their work or from some business trying to show them a good time.

that and their parking situation sucks. i hope to god they don't build the walk ways *around* the lots at the new stadium. the people don't pay attention to the traffic directors and this causes majority of the traffic problem - if you don't know what you're doing you'll spend half your drive home just waiting to exit the parking lot. they need to build the walk ways through the center of the lots so people can walk straight to their cars and cars can easily leave the lots...

my only other problem is the sheer size of the stadium. i know that if the team was playing better we'd have a higher % of skins fans in the stadium, but there will still be a lot of other teams' fans. bumping it down to a capacity in the 60k's would tip it back to where it should be.

[CRedskinsRule]

It was actually federal guidelines, not PG County that stopped the bus rides. This thread so needs to go into debating with the enemies to continue my thoughts.

Metro Shuttle To FedEx Field Is Scuttled

The team used to charter shuttle buses from Metro, but new federal guidelines prohibit public transit agencies from providing charter bus service if private companies are available to provide the service. Last year, Metro chartered nearly 2,500 buses for revenue of $1.6 million.

[tshile]

Ah, that's right. It was metro. I suppose PG county has nothing to do with Metro

Thank you for the correction!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The stadium is equity ,tear it down and lose a lot of value .Maryland doesn't want it ,Ravens ,no ,Navy,no ,even if you develop the land and add housing there isn't enough property to equal the value lost in the stadium .I doubt even Dan Snyder will throw away 750/850 million dollars .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

The stadium is equity ,tear it down and lose a lot of value .Maryland doesn't want it ,Ravens ,no ,Navy,no ,even if you develop the land and add housing there isn't enough property to equal the value lost in the stadium .I doubt even Dan Snyder will throw away 750/850 million dollars .

i was being facetious

MODS Please I beg of thee move this thread to debating... (or better yet thread hell since the stadium won't change in a decade)