Redskins Cowboys post game

[tshile]

odds haslett finally figures out that exotic blitzes are what this team needs going forward?

i put it at .01%.

[SouperMeister]

Haslett really seems to have Romo's number, dialing up numerous zero blitzes. Having physical corners certainly helps, but for all the criticism that we heap on Haslett, let's give him credit for an excellent game plan last night.

[Evilgrin]

I don't care about the PR thing, but they still need to be more professional.

Cowboys and Skins are always dysfunctional somehow.

[tshile]

I must admit, as someone who has been very, very harsh on Meriweather.... he played well last night.

I hope this is the new defense... lots of pressure and letting our young corners challenge people.

[JWsleep]

Wow. Jones is pretty unbelievable. What's next? He's going to suit up himself? And I agree that that interview was pure slime. It was gross just listening to it.

[tshile]

From reading cowboys message boards (it's a bad habit, but pays off in games like this) there are two things that crack me up.

1 - the amount of bitching they do about not getting any 'respect' from the media. everyone picked you. they ride your <you know what> long and hard every year. you have won one (1) playoff game since 1995. the amount of love you get from the media is ridiculous. but it's not enough for you? hah...

2 - they're bitching about Gruden and the way he covered the skins. i thought he was pretty matter-of-fact honest about how badly they were under performing, not playing up to their potential, and generally not executing. yes, as the game wore on and it became evident the Redskins showed up to play, he was a little more positive about some things, but i thought he was pretty harsh to start; justifiably so.

[tshile]

also they went from talking about how much of a sure-win this game was and how they were destined for greatness this year, to:
jones is a joke
garret needs to be fired
romo is a choker and omg look how well weeden runs the offense.

i don't think i've ever seen a fan base so whimsical and over dramatic, even our own. you would have thought that was for the division and the season was already over last night.

though to be fair i did find a few that gave Haslett's game plan, the young corners, and McCoy credit. a few.

[Yellow31]

2 things--Wylie pulled McCoy away AFTER he did the postgame deal with ESPN, the reporter he pulled him from was ESPN deportes, who still got his interview later...complete non-story...
--Question--On McCoy interception, Cowboy catches gets up makes an attempt to get up and run it out, gets hit while still in bounds(I believe by Garcon) fumbles out of the back of the endzone...why is that NOT a safety?? Cowboy defender clearly makes an attempt to get up and run...

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Yellow31

--Question--On McCoy interception, Cowboy catches gets up makes an attempt to get up and run it out, gets hit while still in bounds(I believe by Garcon) fumbles out of the back of the endzone...why is that NOT a safety?? Cowboy defender clearly makes an attempt to get up and run...

A friend of mine made that point to me at halftime and I honestly didn't even consider it.

But you're right... it goes one of two ways. Either he never had possession and it's not a catch, or he had possession and it's a fumble out of the endzone.

I guess the case **could** be made that he had given himself up, but I don't know how you can come to the conclusion. Guy had stood up and got popped.

Should have been a safety. Just like the hold at the end of the game.

I'm not a big conspiracy theorist but we seem to get the short end of the stick on refs more often than not. Last night was atrocious.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by tshile

A friend of mine made that point to me at halftime and I honestly didn't even consider it.

But you're right... it goes one of two ways. Either he never had possession and it's not a catch, or he had possession and it's a fumble out of the endzone.

I guess the case **could** be made that he had given himself up, but I don't know how you can come to the conclusion. Guy had stood up and got popped.

Should have been a safety. Just like the hold at the end of the game.

I'm not a big conspiracy theorist but we seem to get the short end of the stick on refs more often than not. Last night was atrocious.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if you never left the endzone, then a fumble out of bounds is a touchback, similar to if you were tackled in the endzone if you never left the endzone after an INT. Now, if he had run out of the endzone, been hit, and the ball popped out through the back of the endzone then it would be a safety, similar to if you ran out of the endzone and got tackled backward back in to the endzone.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by WillH

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if you never left the endzone, then a fumble out of bounds is a touchback, similar to if you were tackled in the endzone if you never left the endzone after an INT. Now, if he had run out of the endzone, been hit, and the ball popped out through the back of the endzone then it would be a safety, similar to if you ran out of the endzone and got tackled backward back in to the endzone.

You may be right.

My understanding is that being tackled in the end zone = touchback, provided you never left/reentered the enzone.

fumble out of your own endzone = safety. only exception is if it's a kickoff/punt and the ball nicks your hand on its way out of the endzone, since you never had possession.

fumble into the other team's endzone and out of bounds = touchback for the other team.

there's also weird rules about fumbling on fourth down (only the person that fumbled can recover and advance the ball) and fumbling into the endzone and recovering it.

i read them all at one point but cannot remember :\

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by tshile

A friend of mine made that point to me at halftime and I honestly didn't even consider it.

But you're right... it goes one of two ways. Either he never had possession and it's not a catch, or he had possession and it's a fumble out of the endzone.

I guess the case **could** be made that he had given himself up, but I don't know how you can come to the conclusion. Guy had stood up and got popped.

Should have been a safety. Just like the hold at the end of the game.

I'm not a big conspiracy theorist but we seem to get the short end of the stick on refs more often than not. Last night was atrocious.

This. One of the worst called games (against us) I can remember in Snyder's ownership.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Yellow31

2 things--Wylie pulled McCoy away AFTER he did the postgame deal with ESPN, the reporter he pulled him from was ESPN deportes, who still got his interview later...complete non-story...
--Question--On McCoy interception, Cowboy catches gets up makes an attempt to get up and run it out, gets hit while still in bounds(I believe by Garcon) fumbles out of the back of the endzone...why is that NOT a safety?? Cowboy defender clearly makes an attempt to get up and run...

I think thats why the replay took a lil while, I think they determined he didnt attempt to get up and run but was just insuring he was inbounds. I dont know but bang-bang play cliche applys here.

I didnt have a problem with it, more of a problem on the obvious no call holding call that the entire nation saw at the end of the game. Murphy was clearly held in the endzone

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Yellow31

--Question--On McCoy interception, Cowboy catches gets up makes an attempt to get up and run it out, gets hit while still in bounds(I believe by Garcon) fumbles out of the back of the endzone...why is that NOT a safety?? Cowboy defender clearly makes an attempt to get up and run...

[EDIT - Missed the post with the answer.]

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Yellow31

2 things--Wylie pulled McCoy away AFTER he did the postgame deal with ESPN, the reporter he pulled him from was ESPN deportes, who still got his interview later...complete non-story...
--Question--On McCoy interception, Cowboy catches gets up makes an attempt to get up and run it out, gets hit while still in bounds(I believe by Garcon) fumbles out of the back of the endzone...why is that NOT a safety?? Cowboy defender clearly makes an attempt to get up and run...

Ok, so i missed the whole explanation part...