Jay Gruden you are our only hope

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

And you are assuming he can't.

No im not. Not at all. Im simply saying that he might not pan out even with whatever is considered proper development. My point being that what we are seeing might be ....well what we will continue to see. A superb athlete - oft injured - that doesnt appear to be a good passing qb.
Lets not turn this into a RG-3 hater vs apologist bologna argument. To a man every single person onthis board - scratch that - every single Redskins fan in the world would be just tickled pink to see Griff pay off and lead this team for years to come at a high level.
However since none of us have a crystal ball we can only base what we think will happen on what we are seeing happen. To say he only needs to be developed properly is discounting the fact that he has to first have that ability inside him. He might and he might not, but ill be damned if im going to sit here believing he does based on his play so far this year.

[tc2deuce]

RGIII just proved to me that he doesn't give a care in the world about this team!
STUDY film!!!! 2 weeks to prepare for one of the worst secondaries in the league (next to ours) and you can't get DJax the ball!?!?!? No true leader goes to battle unprepared.
Step up or step down!!!!!!!!!!

[MTK]

Not sure I agree totally with Gruden's brutal honesty approach. Some things should be resolved behind closed doors. It's just fueling the fire and adding more doubt to the coach/QB relationship which is a critical one. We've got more problems than just RG3... and those fall on Gruden yet RG3 is taking most of the heat.

[tc2deuce]

Hasslett will be gone by the end of the year...
The fact that we could not rattle McCown is all the evidence you need to prove that his system is terrible!!

[Brody81]

Are we really talking head coach change again?? Vince Lombardi himself could come out of the grave, and he would go 5-11 with this dysfunctional organization.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Brody81

Are we really talking head coach change again?? Vince Lombardi himself could come out of the grave, and he would go 5-11 with this dysfunctional organization.

Exactly, It Literally Doesn't Matter Who The Coach is. Dan Snyder has cursed this team

[sdskinsfan2001]

We never should have fired Marty Shottenheimer, he went 8-8 with starting the season terrible, he had a solid resume, only getting 1 season was asinine.

[KI Skins Fan]

If Jay Gruden is your only hope, give up.. This team has played like crap under him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If Jay Gruden is your only hope, give up.. This team has played like crap under him.

As opposed to last year when they played ....wait a minute - nevermind. Since when does a coach get 10 games to prove himself. Especially when he inherited an absolute disaster and has had to use three different qb's.

[MTK]

We can only judge Gruden on what we've seen so far, and it's not pretty. Not much room for error in this league for head coaches, fair or not. Gotta win games to keep your job.

[ethat001]

Pretty bold of Jay Gruden to call out and completely rip his "franchise QB". I wonder if that means RG3 is on thin ice, and perhaps headed out of here. There's probably some "potential" in there with RG3, but honestly I want production. If he can't even remember the number of steps to drop back after 3 years, I'm thinking Cousins or Colt are better suited to system. It's a new system & he's rusty -> but Colt came in without practice and lit it up, and we had a top 5 offense with Cousins (minus the INTs).


Just tired of the drama. Shut the f@#k up until you can win a game again.
Lead by example instead of pointing.
Stop whining on facebook and twitter and act like a man.
Slide. Learn how to slide.

It's bad enough to watch a bad team play bad games, it's worse to see them unravel in the locker room every year.

[SFREDSKIN]

Colt McCoy is familiar with the West Coast offense, RGIII is still learning and behind the curb. I want to see what RGIII can do with protection, last year doesn't count, Shanahan rushed him. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. Let's get him some protection (not a condom) and give him one more chance next year.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Colt McCoy is familiar with the West Coast offense, RGIII is still learning and behind the curb. I want to see what RGIII can do with protection, last year doesn't count, Shanahan rushed him. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. Let's get him some protection (not a condom) and give him one more chance next year.

There have been plenty of plays where he has had protection and still not made the play. Plenty. I think that if he struggles these last 6 games than we have to seriously consider a change. I dont know if i can handle another year of hoping and praying.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There have been plenty of plays where he has had protection and still not made the play. Plenty. I think that if he struggles these last 6 games than we have to seriously consider a change. I dont know if i can handle another year of hoping and praying.

You are right. In fact,Griffin essentially sacks himself. By holding the ball as he does, realistically he often says, "Please sack me."

The fact that, after sacking himself repeatedly, he still called out other players made me lose respect for RGIII, and I am one of his backers. You can't call out others like that because you are too arrogant to admit that you f***ed up.

No wonder his development is so stunted. No matter how hard you work, it is hard to improve if you spend your time admiring your reflection.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You are right. In fact,Griffin essentially sacks himself. By holding the ball as he does, realistically he often says, "Please sack me."

The fact that, after sacking himself repeatedly, he still called out other players made me lose respect for RGIII, and I am one of his backers. You can't call out others like that because you are too arrogant to admit that you f***ed up.

No wonder his development is so stunted. No matter how hard you work, it is hard to improve if you spend your time admiring your reflection.

“All the sacks are on me, period."

"When I say, ‘All the sacks on are me,’ I’m saying I can do better and I have to do better."

"I will be the first to say I could have done better, a lot better.”

"I didn’t see the field as well as I would have liked to."

"I am not playing that way[at a high level]..."

"I haven’t watched the film yet but I know there are some plays that I would like to have back – of course the interceptions, and there are a couple of plays that come to mind where I feel like I could have been more aggressive. Those plays are in my head. They will stay in my head..."

"I promise you that I will get better."