McCoy to Start Against Indy

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They'll do all they can to trade him this off season is what I've most recently heard

And who do they view as the future QB? McCoy, Cousins, a 2015 draft pick?

[Chico23231]

Live noon sports center lead with pictures of all 8 rams players that were traded for rg3. I almost went hulk style on my 47 inch tv. Just wanted to rip it off the wall and through it out my bay window

[skinsfan69]

They gambled and lost, badly.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Live noon sports center lead with pictures of all 8 rams players that were traded for rg3. I almost went hulk style on my 47 inch tv. Just wanted to rip it off the wall and through it out my bay window

That was strangely specific...

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Live noon sports center lead with pictures of all 8 rams players that were traded for rg3. I almost went hulk style on my 47 inch tv. Just wanted to rip it off the wall and through it out my bay window

LOL...the Rams still need a QB, maybe we can trad RG3 to them for one of those players?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by artmonkdrillz

that was strangely specific...

lol

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by irish

I hope this doesnt come as a shock to you but this franchise has been a disaster for 20 years.

LOL I know

Just not sure how much folks are remembering pre RG, it was just as ugly and Shanahan had enough time to get/mold whoever he wanted.

Sounding like Gruden will have that same opportunity now, recruit and mold whoever he wants. Although if he can't get the rest of his offense playing together, playing smart and looking like a well prepared/coached team. This hasn't been the case yet with Gruden, regardless of QB, my opinion.

[NC_Skins]

[irish]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

LOL I know

Just not sure how much folks are remembering pre RG, it was just as ugly and Shanahan had enough time to get/mold whoever he wanted.

Sounding like Gruden will have that same opportunity now, recruit and mold whoever he wants. Although if he can't get the rest of his offense playing together, playing smart and looking like a well prepared/coached team. This hasn't been the case yet with Gruden, regardless of QB, my opinion.

Shanny didnt get half the time he or any other coach needs to fix this mess.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They gambled and lost, badly.

This has got to be a new low. It just sux so bad. The only positive is Jay is not waiting around on folks, he wants to win now and seems decisive and determined. I can respect that

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Congratulations. Can't imagine how good it feels to see the Redskins reach their lowest point in 20 years.

I take no solace in being right about trading a boat load of picks for a guy who isn't a sure thing. Hell, it would seem that should have been common sense. /shrug

Originally Posted by Mattyk

That's on Snyder and Allen regarding the picks.

Since Shanny had full control, isn't that really all on Shanny?

[Counter-Tre]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

I realize I'm the only person maybe, in the world, to say this... I think Cousins should be going in at this point.

It makes no sense, to me, to put McCoy in there now. I wanted him to stay in after the Dallas game, and I honestly believe we'd be 6-5 right now if he'd played the last 3 weeks...

But, again, here is where I'm on Crazy Island by myself...

I think that Cousins will be the one to be a Great quarterback for someone... and I hope it's us. Yes, he threw interceptions... and yes, once he did, he looked like a guy who freaked out that he made a mistake and got frantic and made other mistakes... but THAT.. to ME... looks like what young, talented quarterback looks like.

Remember that Cousins has started a total of 9 games in the NFL! I realize that a 3 INT game and a 4 INT game stand out... but in his 4 other games this season... 7 TD's to 2 INT's. Eli Manning just threw 5 in a game 2 weeks ago...

Against 2 of the absolute best defenses in the NFL that he had to face back-to-back weeks (Seattle & Arizona), he averaged more than 300 yards passing, 4 TD's to the 3 picks against 'zona.

He's the one that needs to finish being evaluated and not written off. Check these numbers of great QB's early in their career:

Elway - 25 TDs - 29 INTs in first 2 seasons
P. Manning - 100... yes 100 INTs in his first 5 seasons (that's 20 per season)
Farve - 19 TDs - 24 INTs in his SECOND FULL season
E. Manning - 17, 18, and 20 INTs first 3 full seasons (and just last year tossed 18 TDs to 27 INTs!)

My point is... If you have watched our games this year you had to see that Cousins fit balls into teeny tiny windows that McCoy and Griffin NEVER would. He MOVED this offense... period. The WRs got the ball! ... The tight ends got the ball...

And... check this out...
He threw 10 TDs in 5 games, which out him on pace for a 30+ TD season. Remember the last 'Skins QB to do that? Me either. It was done ONCE (31)...by Sonny Jorgensen.. in 1967.

To me, honestly... he looked exactly like a guy who knew this was his one shot in life to be an NFL starting QB (here or elsewhere) and once he made a mistake, he would get frantic to make up for it, and make another... People forget how much internal pressure must have been on this guy every week. He KNEW this was his one shot because he wasn't a first rounder. These other elite QBs struggled in their first 9 starts... but could relax, play through the dumb throws... but their talent was evident... to me... Cousins arm-talent is evident.

I truly think he could be a Farve or Eli Manning-type guy, who when he's on... with the weapons we have on offense.. could possibly get hot every year or so and win us a big one... while, in other years, make you want to throw a brick through your TV.

But either way, right now... HE'S the one that needs another shot... McCoy is not the future and we have to figure out who is...

I'm on crazy island with you brother. Agree 100% with what you wrote.

[irish]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I take no solace in being right about trading a boat load of picks for a guy who isn't a sure thing. Hell, it would seem that should have been common sense. /shrug




Since Shanny had full control, isn't that really all on Shanny?

If memory serves Shanny wasnt sold on taking RG but the owner fell in love and the rest is history.

I thought at the time the Skins didnt have choice but to make a move to get RG. Its a QB league and the Skins needed one badly. Who could have predicted that RG and his Dad were going decide that he had to become a pocket passer at the expense of everything and everyone else.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

And who do they view as the future QB? McCoy, Cousins, a 2015 draft pick?

Jay still has a lot of faith in Kirk. The way Jay feels about RG3 is the way I feel about Kirk, and vice versa

He likes Colt a lot but not as the long term answer. Who knows, maybe he'll surprise

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

If memory serves Shanny wasnt sold on taking RG but the owner fell in love and the rest is history.

I thought at the time the Skins didnt have choice but to make a move to get RG. Its a QB league and the Skins needed one badly. Who could have predicted that RG and his Dad were going decide that he had to become a pocket passer at the expense of everything and everyone else.

Mike agreed to that trade very reluctantly