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Old 12-08-2014, 08:43 PM   #1
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Funny how we didn't hear Gruden rip McCoy a new one after that shit show yesterday.
That's because Colt keeps his shut, doesn't draw attention to himself, doesn't run his mouth off at press confrences and goes about his business.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:45 PM   #2
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That's because Colt keeps his shut, doesn't draw attention to himself and goes about his business.
And it sure showed with his play on the field, so glad he got off Twitter.
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Old 12-09-2014, 12:39 PM   #3
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Funny how we didn't hear Gruden rip McCoy a new one after that shit show yesterday.


To me, it's pretty clear why he ripped RGIII's ass up in public.

1) Ego

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"We just can't let them get to us," Gruden said. "We have a young team, we have some fragile egos here. These guys are young guys trying their best, and they read that nobody likes them and they're 'alienated.' "

"I said all along that a quarterback's No. 1 trait that he has to have, you've got to be thick-skinned," Gruden said. "You have to be tough-minded, tough-willed and accept the good and the bad equally. We just can't let that get to us. We've got to stick together and our guys have done that so far."

2) McCoy/Cousins isn't uncoachable, which apparently Robert currently is due to his massive ego. Didn't want to listen to Kyle, LeFleur, Gruden or McVay.

3) Robert threw his teammates under the bus when he had an incredibly bad game.


I agree somewhat with Jsteelze in the fact the organization played a huge part in Robert's massive ego. They pumped him up as the savior and tried to squeeze every little penny they could via his image. They knew he was a project and should have been low key with this guy and allowed him to develop into his own and THEN prop him up as the star QB.

I think the only way that Gruden could get through to Robert(and Dan) is via the media, and part of that was a power play on Gruden's part as well. He knows good and damn well that Robert isn't ready to be a starting QB in a pro-style offense. Kyle knew it and so did Mike.
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:56 PM   #4
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No i wasn't bro I was js he's a better football guy than ds.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:13 PM   #5
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London Fletcher says the Redskins gave up on Robert Griffin III too soon - The Washington Post
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:44 PM   #6
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More surprising then the Robert public beating is the closet Jay put Kirk. Honestly sans the interceptions I think he ran the offense best this year. Did Kirk screw Jay's wife or something?
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:49 PM   #7
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More surprising then the Robert public beating is the closet Jay put Kirk. Honestly sans the interceptions I think he ran the offense best this year. Did Kirk screw Jay's wife or something?
lmao Kirk turned into basement baby, locked away and never heard from again. But we didn't mortgage the farm for Kirk so I guess people are kinda like, "eh, our backup sucks. Whatever"
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lmao Kirk turned into basement baby, locked away and never heard from again. But we didn't mortgage the farm for Kirk so I guess people are kinda like, "eh, our backup sucks. Whatever"
Lol. He is like Zelda in Pet Cemetery.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:23 PM   #9
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More surprising then the Robert public beating is the closet Jay put Kirk. Honestly sans the interceptions I think he ran the offense best this year. Did Kirk screw Jay's wife or something?
They say that Kirk suffers from a lack of confidence. I'm just guessing, but perhaps Kirk remains in the closet because Gruden doesn't want to play him until he knows that KC will succeed.
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If it were 100% up to Gruden I'd bet Cousins would start over RG3 this weekend.

But let's not pretend the INTs with Kirk weren't a problem, they were. 9 picks in 6 games? That's a season pace of 24. Can't have that.
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If it were 100% up to Gruden I'd bet Cousins would start over RG3 this weekend.

But let's not pretend the INTs with Kirk weren't a problem, they were. 9 picks in 6 games? That's a season pace of 24. Can't have that.

....hell no , then he be a Giant .
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:15 PM   #12
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If it were 100% up to Gruden I'd bet Cousins would start over RG3 this weekend.

But let's not pretend the INTs with Kirk weren't a problem, they were. 9 picks in 6 games? That's a season pace of 24. Can't have that.
I would be interested to see if Cousins could bounce back against the Giants, it was that game which was his dumpster fire moment.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:19 PM   #13
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If it were 100% up to Gruden I'd bet Cousins would start over RG3 this weekend.

But let's not pretend the INTs with Kirk weren't a problem, they were. 9 picks in 6 games? That's a season pace of 24. Can't have that.
I don't agree.
If it wasn't 100% up to Gruden, colt would never would've seen the field.
KC moved the ball well and has the best grasp of the offense, he just made 5-10 really bad throws a game.

If Bruce or Dan are in Grudens ear, they don't let Goldenboy take a beating and benching KC does nothing for the team either. They want their guys to succeed.
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If it were 100% up to Gruden I'd bet Cousins would start over RG3 this weekend.

But let's not pretend the INTs with Kirk weren't a problem, they were. 9 picks in 6 games? That's a season pace of 24. Can't have that.
He was also on pace for 5000 yards and 32 TDs, but the INTs were definitely a problem. Better numbers than Luck's first 16 starts and 10% higher completion rate. But KC wasn't a first rounder, so he doesn't get 30 plus starts to work things out.
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He was also on pace for 5000 yards and 32 TDs, but the INTs were definitely a problem. Better numbers than Luck's first 16 starts and 10% higher completion rate. But KC wasn't a first rounder, so he doesn't get 30 plus starts to work things out.
He was also on pace to never win a game...since he hasn't won a game that he started since his first start.. 'Pace for' is a meaningless stat. Production and results matter and he's not shown that he can be a productive and winning QB.

Let's be honest, no Redskins fan should be trying to defend any of our QBs play this season. It's been abysmal.
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