Giants Post Game Reactions

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If u build the right team u don't always need a franchise QB to win games. Kirk is a to machine so he's not the answer but maybe they can find a guy that protects the ball and is accurate enough to make some plays

Might not be needed, but unless you have the old Ravens defense it sure doesn't hurt. Redskins are due for a QB that starts for like 10 years. It would sure be nice.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Might not be needed, but unless you have the old Ravens defense it sure doesn't hurt. Redskins are due for a QB that starts for like 10 years. It would sure be nice.

Yeah we have been saying this for yrs now. Idk if it's going to happen anytime soon with our recent history.

[over the mountain]

lol it was the strangest most awkward thing. like RG3 trying to slide.

large men are chasing you to the sideline, coaches have hounded you for months to just throw the ball away .... and he just cant bring himself to do it.

kirk - you dont have the arm strength to throw a good ball on the run anyway. kirk throwing on the run = inaccurate ball.

30 - yes i agree. i think a lot of people agree with that. just wasnt ready to make an adjustment when D coord zeroed in on the run and short to intermediate passes.

[Counter-Tre]

Last night's game was a waste of a hangover. I am hanging in though. On to the next one.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

1st INT in my opinion was on Kirk throwing a slow ball as well. I am not going to blame Garcon. That was all Kirk from velocity to throwing to a bad place.

One thing I noticed more last night than any other game KIRK STARED DOWN HIS READ. He went through his progressions a couple of times but for the most part he was one his first read only.

[30gut]

Washington Redskins

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...york-just-yet/

– In years past, we’ve become accustomed to seeing “good Kirk Cousins” or “bad Kirk Cousins” game by game. This season, we have seen both the good and the bad—last night (-0.9) was no different. His first interception was a poor decision, and he left multiple scores on the field with under-thrown deep balls, particularly when targeting Jordan Reed (-0.9) early in the game. Some solid short and intermediate passing improved his performance somewhat, but fans will still be wondering how the game might have panned out if Cousins had hit on at least one of his opportunities with Reed earlier in the game.

– Speaking of Jordan Reed (+2.0 receiving), the Redskins’ tight end continues to be the most productive and most important target in the Washington offense. Snagging six catches for the third game in a row, his numbers would have been even better but for Cousins errant deep passing. The only thing letting Reed’s performances down is his inline blocking (-2.2 run-block), and with the injuries they have suffered at the position, they are simply unable to limit his responsibilities there to protect both himself and the Washington ground game.

– The upgrades brought in via free agency have bolstered Washington’s defensive line early in the season, with Terrance Knighton (+1.3) producing his best game of the season so far. However, the star of Washington’s defensive line is arguably Chris Baker (+5.0), whose six stops last night tied Keenan Robinson (+0.1) for the most on the team. Through three games, Baker is Washington’s highest graded defensive lineman, and is the only member of the Washington front seven—aside from Ryan Kerrigan (+0.3)—to boast a positive grade as both a run defender and pass rusher.

Top performers:

DE Chris Baker (+5.0)

RT Morgan Moses (+3.5)

LT Trent Williams (+2.5)

NT Terrance Knighton (+1.3)

ILB Will Compton (+1.1)

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Washington Redskins

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...york-just-yet/

– In years past, we’ve become accustomed to seeing “good Kirk Cousins” or “bad Kirk Cousins” game by game. This season, we have seen both the good and the bad—last night (-0.9) was no different. His first interception was a poor decision, and he left multiple scores on the field with under-thrown deep balls, particularly when targeting Jordan Reed (-0.9) early in the game. Some solid short and intermediate passing improved his performance somewhat, but fans will still be wondering how the game might have panned out if Cousins had hit on at least one of his opportunities with Reed earlier in the game.

– Speaking of Jordan Reed (+2.0 receiving), the Redskins’ tight end continues to be the most productive and most important target in the Washington offense. Snagging six catches for the third game in a row, his numbers would have been even better but for Cousins errant deep passing. The only thing letting Reed’s performances down is his inline blocking (-2.2 run-block), and with the injuries they have suffered at the position, they are simply unable to limit his responsibilities there to protect both himself and the Washington ground game.

– The upgrades brought in via free agency have bolstered Washington’s defensive line early in the season, with Terrance Knighton (+1.3) producing his best game of the season so far. However, the star of Washington’s defensive line is arguably Chris Baker (+5.0), whose six stops last night tied Keenan Robinson (+0.1) for the most on the team. Through three games, Baker is Washington’s highest graded defensive lineman, and is the only member of the Washington front seven—aside from Ryan Kerrigan (+0.3)—to boast a positive grade as both a run defender and pass rusher.

Top performers:

DE Chris Baker (+5.0)

RT Morgan Moses (+3.5)

LT Trent Williams (+2.5)

NT Terrance Knighton (+1.3)

ILB Will Compton (+1.1)

Are you trolling the colorblind?

[punch it in]

Cant wait to see this board after we spank the fucking eagles. Than we can pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and toast yet again (like last week) to how we can easily win our division and how we have a good group of players and mojo and hip hip hooray.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Cant wait to see this board after we spank the fucking eagles. Than we can pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and toast yet again (like last week) to how we can easily win our division and how we have a good group of players and mojo and hip hip hooray.

The next couple years are gonna' be a bit of a....Missouri Boat Ride" until SM's handiwork bears fruit....Hang on
And HTTR!

[scowan]

I guess I'm wondering if this all changes when Deshawn Jackson comes back and the Redskins have a legit deep threat. You guys know that Jackson wants to play against the Eagles in 9 days or so. At least then, Cousins can take some deep shots to a proven deep threat. He might still underthrow and get picked, but hey, maybe it will be 40 yards down the field and not inside the Redskins 20.

[WillH]

One other thing I meant to say earlier. Clearly, Cousins can't be the QB (at least yet) that can win the game with his arm, so I think it was a mistake to ask him to try. They gave up on the run, so yeah, they went down early in the game and the Giants used 8 min of the second half with one drive and their was a sense of urgency to score, but right now, asking Cousins to make plays with his arm is just unrealistic and likely to fail. If we stuck with the run, we stood a chance. It may have been a small chance, and with a better and/or more veteran QB they may have stood a better chance with shifting more to passing, but I think this team has to except their limitations.

They will lose games because they are one dimensional, and they will likely not make it to the playoffs unless they can find a way to throw the ball well, but I believe it is worth sacrificing the season on our own terms to establish an identity in the league as bruisers that will make you hurt even when they lose. I think there is too high of a risk that this team will continue to flounder unless they hold onto some identity and build on their strengths.

I'd rather they go 7-9 looking like a team that knows who they are and is clearly building themselves into something then 8-8 looking like they don't know where this bus is going (and more likely like 5-11 looking like fools).

[Meks]

One game doesn't prove shit. Must win game decent giants team too many bad breaks, yall need to hide, the sky is falling for you. I'm over all the negativity. On to phully

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Meks

One game doesn't prove shit. Must win game decent giants team too many bad breaks, yall need to hide, the sky is falling for you. I'm over all the negativity. On to phully

Thank you. Nice fresh air in here feels good.

[Paintrain]

Stepping away from the QB conversation for a minute, it's become more and more evident that Gruden is in way over his head. Under his 'leadership' turnovers, penalties and simply looking unprepared. In 19 games, the Skins have scored more than 3 offensve TD in a game 4 times. That's pathetic. He leads the league in excuses and minimizing the mistakes his teams makes. The guy is not a guy who is going to be successful here.

As for the QB, let's see what happens over the next 4 games.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Stepping away from the QB conversation for a minute, it's become more and more evident that Gruden is in way over his head. Under his 'leadership' turnovers, penalties and simply looking unprepared. In 19 games, the Skins have scored more than 3 offensve TD in a game 4 times. That's pathetic. He leads the league in excuses and minimizing the mistakes his teams makes. The guy is not a guy who is going to be successful here.



As for the QB, let's see what happens over the next 4 games.

Would it be fair to say he inherited an absolute shit show? Can we give him more than 19 games to get his guys and his philosophy in place? Look at the turnover on this team since the 2013 season ended. Not to mention the circus sideshow that has been the RG-3 saga he walked into. Im not saying he is gonna be great, but I dont think many coaches in history would have turned our team around at this point.