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Old 12-29-2016, 12:24 PM   #1
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Neither Ryan is coming here. They're not part of club... aka Tampa North.
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Neither Ryan is coming here. They're not part of club... aka Tampa North.
Correct, but Gus Bradley is part of the club. Worked under Jon Gruden in Tampa from '06 - '08, and left to become Seattle's D coordinator in '09 when Gruden was let go from Tampa.

Gus Bradley was defensive quality control coach for Monte Kiffin in 2006, and then took over coaching the linebackers in 2007 when none other than Joe Barry left to become the coordinator of the Lions.

That period of course overlapped with Jay Gruden's time in Tampa, when he was an offensive assistant.

And then in 2009 when Bradley joined the Seahawks as the defensive coordinator from 2009 - 2012, that period overlapped with Scot McCloughan's tenure in Seattle, when he was a personnel executive there supporting Jon Schneider from 2010 - 2014.

Guaranteed Bradley is the top D coordinator target. Redskins One will be fueled up the moment our season ends.
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Fewell is already on the team has previous DC experience, same goes for Manusky. Olivadotti could also ve considered. I think if Barry is fired, it will be an internal promotion.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:11 PM   #5
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Correct, but Gus Bradley is part of the club. Worked under Jon Gruden in Tampa from '06 - '08, and left to become Seattle's D coordinator in '09 when Gruden was let go from Tampa.

Gus Bradley was defensive quality control coach for Monte Kiffin in 2006, and then took over coaching the linebackers in 2007 when none other than Joe Barry left to become the coordinator of the Lions.

That period of course overlapped with Jay Gruden's time in Tampa, when he was an offensive assistant.

And then in 2009 when Bradley joined the Seahawks as the defensive coordinator from 2009 - 2012, that period overlapped with Scot McCloughan's tenure in Seattle, when he was a personnel executive there supporting Jon Schneider from 2010 - 2014.

Guaranteed Bradley is the top D coordinator target. Redskins One will be fueled up the moment our season ends.
From what I've read Bradley fielded horrid defenses early on in his tenure I'm Sea because he had no talent to work with. It wasn't until his units were stacked with perennial players that he started to look like a defensive guru. If he comes here and still has the same players that Coach Barry has the D will not fare that much better.

That being said The Jags defense is rated very high this season so when Gus does have talent he can do a little something something. Barry has never had that chance. Each defense he over saw had a litany of jabronis that were out of the leauge in year. When he was The Chargers LB coach his unit was the strength of the D and his players spoke very highly of him.
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:00 PM   #6
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From what I've read Bradley fielded horrid defenses early on in his tenure I'm Sea because he had no talent to work with. It wasn't until his units were stacked with perennial players that he started to look like a defensive guru. If he comes here and still has the same players that Coach Barry has the D will not fare that much better.

That being said The Jags defense is rated very high this season so when Gus does have talent he can do a little something something. Barry has never had that chance. Each defense he over saw had a litany of jabronis that were out of the leauge in year. When he was The Chargers LB coach his unit was the strength of the D and his players spoke very highly of him.
I definitely don't think Barry was dealt a great hand in personnel this year, but this kind of overlooks the fact that we're a worse defense this year by all measures despite adding Josh Norman and changing very little else.

We're allowing more 3rd down conversions this year than we did last year. The conversion rate we're allowing on 3rd downs is among the worst rates in league history, let alone worst in the NFL this year.

It wasn't that bad last year, so why'd it get worse? Good coaches make at least a little bit of lemonade out of lemons. I just can't point to an area where Barry has made an improvement year over year, it's just not happening.
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I definitely don't think Barry was dealt a great hand in personnel this year, but this kind of overlooks the fact that we're a worse defense this year by all measures despite adding Josh Norman and changing very little else.

We're allowing more 3rd down conversions this year than we did last year. The conversion rate we're allowing on 3rd downs is among the worst rates in league history, let alone worst in the NFL this year.

It wasn't that bad last year, so why'd it get worse? Good coaches make at least a little bit of lemonade out of lemons. I just can't point to an area where Barry has made an improvement year over year, it's just not happening.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:16 PM   #8
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Correct, but Gus Bradley is part of the club. Worked under Jon Gruden in Tampa from '06 - '08, and left to become Seattle's D coordinator in '09 when Gruden was let go from Tampa.

Gus Bradley was defensive quality control coach for Monte Kiffin in 2006, and then took over coaching the linebackers in 2007 when none other than Joe Barry left to become the coordinator of the Lions.

That period of course overlapped with Jay Gruden's time in Tampa, when he was an offensive assistant.

And then in 2009 when Bradley joined the Seahawks as the defensive coordinator from 2009 - 2012, that period overlapped with Scot McCloughan's tenure in Seattle, when he was a personnel executive there supporting Jon Schneider from 2010 - 2014.

Guaranteed Bradley is the top D coordinator target. Redskins One will be fueled up the moment our season ends.
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/s...32172577705984

This one play breakdown shows exactly why Joe Barry has no business being a defensive coordinator. It's all about knowing your personnel and running a scheme/plays to fit those players. Delayed safety blitzes without fast safeties isn't smart.


I think you guys are enjoy fantasies about any new DC coming here. The same thing will happen with Barry as it did with Haslett. Making the playoffs will save his job and he'll get another year(s). Hell, even if we don't make the playoffs, I still think they retain him.
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Old 12-29-2016, 04:54 PM   #11
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Correct, but Gus Bradley is part of the club. Worked under Jon Gruden in Tampa from '06 - '08, and left to become Seattle's D coordinator in '09 when Gruden was let go from Tampa.

Gus Bradley was defensive quality control coach for Monte Kiffin in 2006, and then took over coaching the linebackers in 2007 when none other than Joe Barry left to become the coordinator of the Lions.

That period of course overlapped with Jay Gruden's time in Tampa, when he was an offensive assistant.

And then in 2009 when Bradley joined the Seahawks as the defensive coordinator from 2009 - 2012, that period overlapped with Scot McCloughan's tenure in Seattle, when he was a personnel executive there supporting Jon Schneider from 2010 - 2014.

Guaranteed Bradley is the top D coordinator target. Redskins One will be fueled up the moment our season ends.
I like Bradley, so I hope your prophecy becomes true. We could certainly do a lot worse than him.
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Correct, but Gus Bradley is part of the club. Worked under Jon Gruden in Tampa from '06 - '08, and left to become Seattle's D coordinator in '09 when Gruden was let go from Tampa.

Gus Bradley was defensive quality control coach for Monte Kiffin in 2006, and then took over coaching the linebackers in 2007 when none other than Joe Barry left to become the coordinator of the Lions.

That period of course overlapped with Jay Gruden's time in Tampa, when he was an offensive assistant.

And then in 2009 when Bradley joined the Seahawks as the defensive coordinator from 2009 - 2012, that period overlapped with Scot McCloughan's tenure in Seattle, when he was a personnel executive there supporting Jon Schneider from 2010 - 2014.

Guaranteed Bradley is the top D coordinator target. Redskins One will be fueled up the moment our season ends.
Hmmmm ... Where have I heard this before? Oh, now I remember:

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So, just throwing this out there ...

Anyone else realize that the recently fired Gus Bradley has connections to Jay Gruden, Bruce Allen and Scot McC?

- Bradley was TBay's LB coach from 2006-08 while BA was the GM (2004 - 08) and Gruden an offensive assistant (2002 -08).

- Bradley was Seahawks DC from 2009 - 12 while Scot McC a Senior Personnel Assistant (2010-2013).

In addition, per Twitter sources, Bradley was first hired into the pros by Monte Kiffin as a Quality Control Coach for TBay and was subsequently promoted to LB coach based on Joe Barry's suggestion when JB went to Detroit and, after Barry fired by Detroit and Bradley went to Seattle, Barry was rehired for as TBay's LB coach for the 2009 season.

If Barry doesn't turn it around in the next three games, I can see - and would have no problems with - Bradley being our next DC.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:10 PM   #13
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Hmmmm ... Where have I heard this before? Oh, now I remember:
Ha! Great minds.

All I did was look at Jon Gruden's Wikipedia page just to see who were some of the guys he coached with. Little did I know you were a better source!
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Guenther says he's under contract with Bengals for 2017 and plans return | WKRC

Along with Gus....another guy to watch
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