Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

[dej733]

Sounds like the Browns may make a run trading for Kirk.

Per @ProFootballTalk: Cleveland may make a run at trading for Kirk Cousins

JP Finlay also reporting that he's heard similar reports within last 24 hours

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by dej733

Sounds like the Browns may make a run trading for Kirk.

Per @ProFootballTalk: Cleveland may make a run at trading for Kirk Cousins

JP Finlay also reporting that he's heard similar reports within last 24 hours

Poor Kirk if that goes down, at least his football career will die profitable.

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by dej733

Sounds like the Browns may make a run trading for Kirk.

Per @ProFootballTalk: Cleveland may make a run at trading for Kirk Cousins

JP Finlay also reporting that he's heard similar reports within last 24 hours

You kind of wonder if the Skins would float this rumor to get Kirk to agree to a long term contract out of fear.

[dej733]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

You kind of wonder if the Skins would float this rumor to get Kirk to agree to a long term contract out of fear.

I thought the same when I read the report. Maybe they're floating the rumor to try to force Kirk's hand by the threat of sending him to the Browns. Both the Skins and Browns are going through some rough times right now... but staying with the Skins has to be more appealing to Kirk than going to Cleveland (I hope). I really would like to see us get a deal done to keep Kirk.

From what I've heard, Kirk's agent is chasing his first major contract and he wants to hit big with Kirk; so if it's the money that they're chasing then it may not matter that it's the Browns. The Browns have the cap space and ammo to possibly make a trade happen.The Browns have already showed their hand by letting everyone know that they don't want Osweiler. From everything that I've heard is that they plan to either release or trade him. So they still need a QB. They have two first round picks this year (1st and 12th); maybe they would be willing to give up the 12th pick along with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

You kind of wonder if the Skins would float this rumor to get Kirk to agree to a long term contract out of fear.

Kirk basically controls where he can be traded since no one will trade for him if they don't know the basic parameters of his eventual long term deal or if he flat out says he won't sign long term with them. Unless the Skins are willing to give Kirk up for peanuts, in which case maybe some team would be content to have him for one year

[skinsfaninok]

We won't trade kirk for anything less than a 1st round pick and Cleveland ain't giving us one of theirs..

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[Schneed10]

The only way the Browns consider that is if they are confident Cousins would sign a deal with them, and the only way that could happen is if the Redskins permit him to talk contract with the Browns. And the only way the Redskins do that is if Cleveland makes a real hard push in terms of trade compensation.

Lots of dominoes to fall, I don't see it. I don't think Cousins would be interested in signing there.

[Bangee7]

Kirk cleared the air, the front office wants him, so this will get done.

the rest of us just need to tune out the "fake news" until the final signature goes on paper.

More than ever, I am convinced this deal gets done.

[sdskinsfan2001]

If Brock Osweiler comes to the Skins as part of any trade I will stop watching pro football. Can't root for another team so I'd just have to quit cold turkey.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Browns could roll over some of their cap space, and they have a lot, and franchise Cousins next year. That guarantees them 2 years of Kirk and 2 years to get a big fat contract worked out. I could see a trade to them just as easily as to San Fran.

[btfoom]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk cleared the air, the front office wants him, so this will get done.

the rest of us just need to tune out the "fake news" until the final signature goes on paper.

More than ever, I am convinced this deal gets done.

Great post. I agree 100%. The media HATE Snyder so much that they just can't wait to post any type of bad news about the Skins whenever they get a chance.

We know that KC didn't ask for a trade - as posted by several 'sources' - and we know that he contacted Pryor and others to start off-season sessions to get acquainted with them.

Plus, he's having a baby this fall and has a great place in town. He wants to stay, the Skins want to keep him, and they will get a deal done. Stop listening to the talking heads and twitter junkies who just need lots of clicks to keep them employed.

[dej733]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk cleared the air, the front office wants him, so this will get done.

the rest of us just need to tune out the "fake news" until the final signature goes on paper.

More than ever, I am convinced this deal gets done.

Sounds like you're right.

Per @MaryKayCabot: #Browns not expected to make run at #Redskins Kirk Cousins, but 3 other teams have & were shot down, source says

[WillH]

Originally Posted by dej733

Sounds like you're right.

Per @MaryKayCabot: #Browns not expected to make run at #Redskins Kirk Cousins, but 3 other teams have & were shot down, source says

Thank God, this all sounds good. I just think Kirk is such a professional. He responded really well to the misinformation. I am starting to crawl back from the edge. If we have Kirk going into the season this team is still in good shape. I think we can chalk this all up to an unsurprisingly mismanaged personnel situation and potentially malicious public parting, but I do think the rumors were piled on to continue the "Redskins Front Office sucks" narrative. So, maybe now we can recover and only lose out I the talent evaluation department, and that too can possibly be remedied. That said, I can't help but pause because I do have a couple of questions about this situation.

Why was this situation handled this way? If I had a high level employee that was skilled but has a substance abuse issue (and was honest about it upon hire) and relapsed I would first send him home and simply say publicly that he was out on leave. Period. No stupid personal story. Next I'd offer treatment (honestly I'd be surprised if they could fire him without offering). If he accepted I would say he was on long term leave for personal reasons (and he could comment if/when he wanted. If he refused, I would have a discussion with them about how to handle his termination (negotiate a termination agreement - compensation, timing, official documentation, public communication, etc.). If he cooperated in negotiations a I would suggest him remaining "on leave for personal reasons" until a less crucial time, and make a quiet announcement with an agreed upon official statement. If he was not cooperative, I suppose it would be an immediate termination without publicly releasing a reason.

So this could mean so many things, but here's what seem to be the prevailing possibilities:

1. There were other underlying reasons. A power struggle over a Kirk as some have suggested maybe. They silenced him, fired him, and dragged him through the mud to make themselves seem less at fault.

2. They tried to go through all the proper protocol, he was a mess, was unwilling to seek treatment, unwilling to negotiate termination, and they had to fire him immediately. And then

a) The FO felt too exposed so they purposely leaked statements smearing him.

b) someone spoke out of turn.

3) They are incredibly stupid and incompetent. Didn't know how to handle the situation. Tried to hide what was going on, couldn't work things out peacefully with Scot, fired him and then (see 2a and 2b).

So, if it's

1. Then it is more of the slimy, unprofessional, and chaotic behavior that Snyder has poisoned this organization with, and as others have expressed, Im sick of it and don't know how much more I can watch a respected and beloved franchise dragged into the same cesspool of classlessness that I always expected of Dallas.

2a. Less loathsome, but still slimy. My bet for most likely.

3a. Frustrating and loathsome and one of the more likely in my mind.

3b. Not loathsome, but frustrating and inexcusable.

2b. Is the only somewhat excuseable scenario, but even then. How can you not keep shit out of he media? How can you not release a statement condemning the leak and apologizing?

Who the hell is accountable for these mishandled situations.

Maybe this is the wrong place for all this, but I can finally return from the ledge, express my frustration, and thank god we at least have a professional QB that can handle his shit. At least for now...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk cleared the air, the front office wants him, so this will get done.

the rest of us just need to tune out the "fake news" until the final signature goes on paper.

More than ever, I am convinced this deal gets done.

I feel better now that Kirk has cleared things out.

Honestly, I don't expect this deal to get done until July, as this is how these types of situations work out. It'd be nice if the deal got done before, but as Andrew Brandt says: deadlines spurn action.

[rocnrik]

Could it be possible that BOTH sides were to blame like you said in number 2..in that case The skins had to make a move..Why has Scott not said anything? I would be interested in his story.