The Haskins Threat

[MTK]

Way too early to write him off. He's barely played.

[Buffalo Bob]

Give the kid a chance for Pete's sake. He was able to get away with poor mechanics and a few other things at OSU because of a strong arm and superior teammates. It does appear college coaches don't stress mechanics and techniques these days if players are good enough in other areas to compensate.
It blows my mind when I see guys get to the pros with poor techniques that you would not have seen back in the day.

I kind of look at Haskins as the kid who got straight A's in High School without studying thinking he could do the same in College. When he found out otherwise it took him a while to adapt. I think he will be ok. I base my opinion on he isn't showing the traits that a lot of high draft pick bust QBs have.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I kind of look at Haskins as the kid who got straight A's in High School without studying thinking he could do the same in College. When he found out otherwise it took him a while to adapt. I think he will be ok. I base my opinion on he isn't showing the traits that a lot of high draft pick bust QBs have.

You started off right, but i have a completely different take on that analogy:

Haskins is like a kid who got straight A's in High School without studying thinking he could do the same in College. But when he found out otherwise, he realized he was in way over his head and questioned whether he made a mistake in going to College in the first place.

I do not think he will be ok. I base my opinion on the fact that he isn't showing a single one of the crucial traits that even mediocre high draft pick QBs have - confidence, leadership, effort, and a burning desire to improve.

Its not his performance on the field that makes me feel he is a bust. That can all be corrected with coaching. Its his actions and demeanor off the field. No coach can change that. He's got to want to do it himself, and he clearly doesn't.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I am not sure where you are getting that all the local guys say he is working his tail off in practice. That sounds like a guy who wants to improve to me and is the off the field demeanor I am looking for in an athlete.

[MTK]

The thought of calling a guy a bust after limited action in two relief appearances is just absurd.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by MTK

The thought of calling a guy a bust after limited action in two relief appearances is just absurd.

I cant speak for everyone, but I'm not calling him a bust after limited action in two relief appearances. I thought he would be a bust before the draft. The most concerning thing is, not his play on the field, but his poor demeanor, attitude, and seeming disinterest over the course of the season. He's a bust until he proves otherwise. Those are not qualities you want to see in someone Allen (foolishly) invested the 15th overall pick in.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I cant speak for everyone, but I'm not calling him a bust after limited action in two relief appearances. I thought he would be a bust before the draft. The most concerning thing is, not his play on the field, but his poor demeanor, attitude, and seeming disinterest over the course of the season. He's a bust until he proves otherwise. Those are not qualities you want to see in someone Allen (foolishly) invested the 15th overall pick in.

I'm just not seeing the same thing.

[sdskinsfan2001]

We aren't winning with Keenum either. We are the Dolphins trying a real 2 point conversion play away from being 0-8. I'd rather lose watching Haskins.

My favorite play last night was win Keenum had a guy in the front of the endzone only 5 yards from him and he threw a 90 MPH spitball 2 yards into the ground. There was a penalty so it wouldn't have mattered, but that was terrible.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We aren't winning with Keenum either. We are the Dolphins trying a real 2 point conversion play away from being 0-8. I'd rather lose watching Haskins.

My favorite play last night was win Keenum had a guy in the front of the endzone only 5 yards from him and he threw a 90 MPH spitball 2 yards into the ground. There was a penalty so it wouldn't have mattered, but that was terrible.

Case is at least a functioning NFL QB. He isn't a very good one but he can at least do the basic shit and hit open wr's if he has a clean pocket. I almost see why the coaches just don't want Haskins out there. It's just not fair to the other 10 guys.

[Chief X_Phackter]

And that doesn't mean he won't start eventually, he just isn't close to being ready right now.

[Chico23231]

Haskins needs to play period. Get him ready after the bye put in package that will accommodate his strength...it’s absolutely bullshit he can’t run a basic package.

Because BHA is right about the upcoming draft, if there is a can’t miss QB available...you should take him if Haskins just doesn’t have what it takes to be successful. In order to see “it”, Haskins has to play now.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Haskins needs to play period. Get him ready after the bye put in package that will accommodate his strength...it’s absolutely bullshit he can’t run a basic package.

Because BHA is right about the upcoming draft, if there is a can’t miss QB available...you should take him if Haskins just doesn’t have what it takes to be successful. In order to see “it”, Haskins has to play now.

I'm not so sure about that anymore. It's not even fair to the other players if he can't make the right calls that will keep him from getting sacked, or can't get his feet set to make simple throws.

[skinsfan69]

What really bothered me was there was a shot on the sidelines after a offensive series and Ko is sitting down w/ Case, there's Colt also in street clothes and those three were going over stuff. Where was Haskins? He wasn't in on the conversation at all. He's the backup, not Colt. Then I went back to what Lombardi was saying about him and that goes back to the culture thing. Then he goes out there and takes a terrible sack, has a terrible int and could have had another one.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What really bothered me was there was a shot on the sidelines after a offensive series and Ko is sitting down w/ Case, there's Colt also in street clothes and those three were going over stuff. Where was Haskins? He wasn't in on the conversation at all. He's the backup, not Colt. Then I went back to what Lombardi was saying about him and that goes back to the culture thing. Then he goes out there and takes a terrible sack, has a terrible int and could have had another one.

He also seemed aloof in the presser after last night's game. The one thing I'm waiting for from Haskins is that one "Wow! That was nice!" play from him. I've yet to see that type of play from him in his limited time.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

He also seemed aloof in the presser after last night's game. The one thing I'm waiting for from Haskins is that one "Wow! That was nice!" play from him. I've yet to see that type of play from him in his limited time.

The pass to AP and one bomb in preseason both highlighted his arm skill and the AP pass particularly was a tight on the line high speed pass.

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