Ron Rivera Thread

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

What’s taking so long to make the announcement of the hiring

It was reported this morning that negotiations were taking longer than anticipated.

My guess is other teams have fired coaches and are reaching out to Rivera, giving him more leverage. I doubt money is an obstacle. Its likely more about control and the length of his contract.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

What’s taking so long to make the announcement of the hiring

Probably want to do it tomorrow after all of the Black Monday news are over and done with. Also, they are probably negotiating with Rivera on FO staffing and whatnot.

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[Warthog]

Rivera has all the leverage in these negotiations. Dan knows that many teams want him and are at better starting points than the Redskins. Rivera may want guaranteed money and huge levels of control written into the contract. Ultimately if Snyder wants him he will have to give it.

For all the people saying “it’s the same old thing” there are several differences:

1. No Cerrato or Allen in the structure, which was how Snyder secretly wielded management on the draft, FA, etc.

2. Snyder is using an outside group of NFL guru’s for advice, versus the Cerrato/Allen toadie who just told him anything solely so THEY could stay in power. All these boot-lickers wanted was another year in power.

3. One of the advisors is rumored to be former GM himself, McLovin’. Paybacks a bitch isn’t it BA!

4. To get someone of the caliber of Rivera, I’m sure Snyder is giving up most, if not all his influence on football decisions. Rivera has leverage and he’s using it!! It is obvious to Rivera or any other major candidate, that Snyder and his lackey’s influence in the organization is what killed outstanding former HC like Gibbs and Shanahan. That’s the BIGGEST CHANGE. BA gone and no new “yes man” in his place!!

I cautiously optimistic ONCE RIVERA IS SIGNED.


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[Warthog]

Again, let’s see if Snyder changes. He’s always had a lackey GM to internally helping him micromanage the team. I would be extremely surprised if Rivera or any premium HC candidate would allow the past system of failure, with Snyder and his buddy GM sticking their grubby paws into team football decisions.

With 20 years of failure of this franchise model of management, Rivera is an absolute fool if he doesn’t severely restrict Snyder’s input into football decisions. Snyder fired his buddy Bruce Allen. He’s using outside NFL guru’s for advice. He’s trying to bring in an excellent HC, at the price of his involvement in the internal management of the team.

I’m cautiously optimistic that the old Redskins way for the last 20 years, will be put to bed. Let’s see!


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[Meks]

Negotiations apparently hit a snag

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Meks

Negotiations apparently hit a snag

Any word about the reason why?

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[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Meks

Negotiations apparently hit a snag

Like I said, Rivera is totally in the drivers seat in this negotiations. He could go to almost any other team, with a better situation. So, I’m sure he’s pushing for maximum player draft and FA control, his own guaranteed salary, perhaps who works at GM, coaching control; limiting Snyder’s influence in football decisions.

Dan Snyder is definitely not used to conceding this much power to a HC. He may be pushing back at all the concessions to Rivera’s demands. He either gives in to Rivera and all his demands or this will go downhill quickly. If Rivera leaves this negotiation, other top HC candidates may look at the Redskins as unfixable.

Half of the Snyder / Allen “problem” was Snyder himself. He’s done well by firing BA, as many on this site said he would never do. Now he may be limiting his own management on football issues in order to hire Rivera.....or not!


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Meks

Negotiations apparently hit a snag

That’s bullshit.

Julie Donaldson, who has been on this story from the beginning, says they are going very well.

Fred smoot says they left the park and having dinner together right now... with president Obama.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

That’s bullshit.

Julie Donaldson, who has been on this story from the beginning, says they are going very well.

Fred smoot says they left the park and having dinner together right now... with president Obama.


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Pretty sure the Pres Obama part was a joke

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[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Pretty sure the Pres Obama part was a joke

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Or....Dan is all in on a fresh start and is going to rename the team as part of the offseason changes.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

Or....Dan is all in on a fresh start and is going to rename the team as part of the offseason changes.

Nah I wouldn't read too much into the Obama diner. Might simply be a PR move to improve the organisation's image.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Pretty sure the Pres Obama part was a joke

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Yeah I tried to go back in to edit my post to clarify that is how i took it, but i guess it didn’t go through.

That things are going well is legit though.


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Yeah I tried to go back in to edit my post to clarify that is how i took it, but i guess it didn’t go through.

That things are going well is legit though.


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It did, but after my post.


I hope they are. It seems like tbings were not as smooth as was expected. I remember, maybe wrongly, when we ended up with Zorn that a similar situation played out. We thought there was a done deal then things fell apart and two werks later Zorn was hired



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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Pretty sure the Pres Obama part was a joke

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I have no idea about President Obama, it was being tweeted by other people as well. Are Dan and President Obama actually friends? Or Ron Rivera and Obama?

[EdmundDorf]

Sounds odd, thought Dan was a major Trump contributor, those two things wouldn't seem to be compatible , could just be a rich guy using his money to gain influence with whoever has power...