Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

I draw several conclusions from this story. The first is that RGIII notwitstanding, Shanahan is NOT a shrewd evaluator of football talent. Secondly, the Redskins could probably be 3-6 with a combination of Cousins & Grossman at QB; Shanahan has NOT wisely selected the players (and coaches) that are attempting to complement RGIII's skills, thus the on-field results are less than stellar even with Griffin running the offense. Third, I would say that even if there is but a shred of truth to the story, Shanahan has vastly underrated the Redskins' lack of talent and thus erred strategically in trading away such valuable draft picks. Finally, I would just say that if things are as bad as they seem right now, RGIII will be past his prime by the time the Shanaclan get things figured out -- if they ever do!

This seems like a simple case of the game passing-by a once outstanding football coach.

One playoff win in 14 years. Doesn't take a generic website sports magazine to figure this one out. Its just the vast majority of fans on this site are still in the denial phase.

Here is a link to fellow redskins fans, in the spirit of recovery.

Phases of Grieving | eHow.com

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by The Goat

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

No link; it's a paid download. I love PFW, but you have to pay $4.99 to see story.

[SFREDSKIN]

Here's part of the interview with Michael Lombardi:

Michael Lombardi on Shanahan, the GM

[CrazyCanuck]

Mike Shanahan mising passport, stack of cash in Pittsburgh - Yahoo! Sports

Ok guys time to own up. Who was it?

Goooooaaaaattttttt????

Give him back his stuff. How's Shanny supposed to leave without a passport??

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's part of the interview with Michael Lombardi:

Michael Lombardi on Shanahan, the GM

Nice article. I question a lot of the decisions Shanahan has made in terms of personnel. Hankerson, Aldrick Robinson, Roy Helu Jr., and Dennis Morris should have never been drafted. After drafting Kerrigan and Jenkins last year, none of the stockpiled picks haven't panned out.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's part of the interview with Michael Lombardi:

Michael Lombardi on Shanahan, the GM

Snyder needs to listen to Lombardi. Mike too but I don't know if his ego could handle looking in the mirror and admitting someone could do better or at least that he needs some help. I think the fact that he hasn't hired any personell people kind of verifies that.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's part of the interview with Michael Lombardi:

Michael Lombardi on Shanahan, the GM

Lombardi is dead on. Hopefully Snyder will read this.

[CultBrennan59]

Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Ill say this. When we hired MS I knew that with the fact that no Super Bowl coaches have won Super Bowls with other teams, that that was unlikely to happen here. I figured that MS was more so a hiring to get our team in the right direction, and hand it over to someone else when he would retire (like his son Kyle for example). The problem is this team hasn't progressed, in most ways it's regressed.

There's a 1st time for every thing. Don't know how far into the future it will happen, but one day a NFL head coach will win Super Bowls with two different teams.

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

There's a 1st time for every thing. Don't know how far into the future it will happen, but one day a NFL head coach will win Super Bowls with two different teams.

Heck Holmgren almost did it with Sea. If the refs hadn't blown some calls (which the NFL apoligized for) he could've broken that trend.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by The Goat

If Shanahan said this or anything like it publicly Snyder needs to fire him immediately, as a matter of principle.

Is there a link to the story?

Wow if true I agree he needs to be gone.

[SmootSmack]

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan said after a 21-13 home loss to the previously 1-6 Panthers that he would begin evaluat- ing which players would be part of the picture in 2013. Where Shanahan failed previously was not properly doing so this year.
Shanahan thought he had a playoff-caliber roster, and what holes there were could be caulked by the dynamic talents of pre- cocious rookie QB Robert Griffin III. Shanahan was right about Griffin — the kid is good — but wrong about the other 52 guys.
Why else would he gamble and give up so much (first-round picks gone the next two seasons), even for as rare a talent as RG3? If you had told Shanahan that the picks he would give up would be top-10s, I guarantee he would have hesitated.
As executive VP, this falls on Shanahan. Sure, he unearthed a nice fit for his zone scheme (sixth-round RB Alfred Morris) and the team has lost four starters to injury, but that also reflects on the depth of the bottom half of the roster — there is next to none.
When Shanahan was dusting the NFL in the 1990s with his offense, he could get away with undersized linemen because he had whiz OL coaches like Bobb McKittrick and Alex Gibbs, star receivers such as Jerry Rice, Rod Smith and Shannon Sharpe and Hall of Fame QBs in Steve Young and John Elway.
Griffin is great, but even he can’t compensate for this mess on his own. Years of bad personnel moves, some under Shanahan’s watch, have left the Redskins’ till mostly bare. — Eric Edholm

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

You must feed the savages their blood man lol.

I dont think the team has regressed.. I think its currently plagued woth injuries and any team would be struggling with the same amount of them.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys really think he said that? It's an opinion from PFW

I didn't read a quote in there, so pretty doubtful it's anything more than the author's opinion. The criticism of personnel decisions is spot on though because personnel and scheme decisions are directly linked.