Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[The Goat]

Not saying anything here to defend Shanahan, but there are several other teams this year severely under-performing because their coaches have no business being in their position. San Diego, KC, Buffalo, and I even put Oakland in there. Mike is still the "worst" because he's more responsible for his team's failure than any of those HCs, and by a long shot. But comparing apples to apples i.e. if Mike was just another bad coach and had nothing to do w/ personnel, at least he'd have some company. Right now he's alone as the biggest failure because that's the way he likes it...it's all about him.

We have something none of those teams do, and it's not just RG3 but what he represents. Among all the teams that will/should can their coaching staff at season's end we are absolutely the best destination for all potential HCs. Danny/BA are a few smart decisions away from getting us back on the right track, and that's something I can drink to

[CultBrennan59]

This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

[SmootSmack]

Sorry no one really wants to talk much about free agency or the draft right now. Don't take it personally

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

It's because skins fans are just tired of the SOS, losing. So no one really wants to look ahead right now, it's all about the present and why This team hasn't improved over 3 years.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sorry no one really wants to talk much about free agency or the draft right now. Don't take it personally

You would think when fans start saying "Fire Shanahan" or "We're done" or "Start looking towards next year" that they would do what I do and literally look ahead to the future by looking at free agency or draft, but apparently not....yet...

[redskin29633]

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

I draw several conclusions from this story. The first is that RGIII notwitstanding, Shanahan is NOT a shrewd evaluator of football talent. Secondly, the Redskins could probably be 3-6 with a combination of Cousins & Grossman at QB; Shanahan has NOT wisely selected the players (and coaches) that are attempting to complement RGIII's skills, thus the on-field results are less than stellar even with Griffin running the offense. Third, I would say that even if there is but a shred of truth to the story, Shanahan has vastly underrated the Redskins' lack of talent and thus erred strategically in trading away such valuable draft picks. Finally, I would just say that if things are as bad as they seem right now, RGIII will be past his prime by the time the Shanaclan get things figured out -- if they ever do!

This seems like a simple case of the game passing-by a once outstanding football coach.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

You would think when fans start saying "Fire Shanahan" or "We're done" or "Start looking towards next year" that they would do what I do and literally look ahead to the future by looking at free agency or draft, but apparently not....yet...

Not that I am defending the people that are posting here (or what is being posted here), but free agency/draft discussions are pointless and too early at this point.

[InsaneBoost]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This thread has gone on longer than 3 gameday threads.....why do you all continue to beat a dead horse?

You all would rather talk about Shanahan sucking or he should be fired, but not about the positives or other threads on this board. I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of these people when I come to this board...

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. Good one man.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

When I watched the game last night I wasn't wondering why the Skins aren't 6-3 too.

Don't let me ruin the fun, maybe I'm the crazy one.

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

So you had a random thought from around the NFL...and decided to ignore that we have a weekly around the NFL thread and post it there?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What on earth are you talking about? I had a random observation that the Colts seem to have turned things around pretty quickly and it is really impressive given that they have a rookie QB and a really unfortunate situation with their head coach.

I like the Redskins (obviously) and it is tough to watch something you love, yes I said love, struggle for so long. What the hell do you want me to say? "Well I sure am glad we aren't as bad as the Chiefs" ?

Edit: *yes

I wasn't talking to you directly, it was just a general thought more than anything.

Don't take it so personal.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Did anyone catch fox Sunday pregame? Heard Jimmy and Howie were saying Mike and co. Are holding griff back.

hmmmmm, I wonder if they fit into the category of announcers/analysts that don't know what they are talking about, or ones that do. I guess it depends on the situation. A layperson could see the coaching on our team this year is holding the franchise back, not just RG3.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by redskin29633

In the current digital issue of Pro Football Weekly, they ran a short feature article on Shanahan and the Redskins' problems. The article states that had Shanahan known how bad his other 52 players were, he would not have made the deal for RGIII. PFW intimates that Shanahan did not expect that the Redskins draft picks (relinquished for Griffin) would be such quality picks. Had he known, the story contends, Shanahan would have never made the deal with St. Louis. Shanahan made the trade with St. Louis believing that his Redskins would be a contender right now!

I draw several conclusions from this story. The first is that RGIII notwitstanding, Shanahan is NOT a shrewd evaluator of football talent. Secondly, the Redskins could probably be 3-6 with a combination of Cousins & Grossman at QB; Shanahan has NOT wisely selected the players (and coaches) that are attempting to complement RGIII's skills, thus the on-field results are less than stellar even with Griffin running the offense. Third, I would say that even if there is but a shred of truth to the story, Shanahan has vastly underrated the Redskins' lack of talent and thus erred strategically in trading away such valuable draft picks. Finally, I would just say that if things are as bad as they seem right now, RGIII will be past his prime by the time the Shanaclan get things figured out -- if they ever do!

This seems like a simple case of the game passing-by a once outstanding football coach.

One playoff win in 14 years. Doesn't take a generic website sports magazine to figure this one out. Its just the vast majority of fans on this site are still in the denial phase.

Here is a link to fellow redskins fans, in the spirit of recovery.

Phases of Grieving | eHow.com

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So you had a random thought from around the NFL...and decided to ignore that we have a weekly around the NFL thread and post it there?

I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me -- should I start a forgive me thread and post there?

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wasn't talking to you directly, it was just a general thought more than anything.

Don't take it so personal.

You're right -- that was a little too grouchy. I was just surprised at the response it got.