2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

First, FEMA has actually improved quite a bit under this Administration. Of course, don't take my word for it, I'm a Kool Aid Drinker.

And how calloused and disconnected could you be? You act as the victims of the storm are asking for a hand-out or government assistance. I'm sure they'd much rather have their lives in tact the way it was prior to Sandy. But you can't see that because....well, I actually have no idea.

You keep saying what has Obama done? Geez dude, we were only losing 750K-800K jobs per month before he took office. I know it pains you and Sammy to admit this, but the economy is actually recovering.

FEMA is just as bad if not worse under Obama. I have a customer due to pryor losses has to buy flood insurance directly through FEMA. His house next door has the flood ins policy through our company which administers the policy for FEMA. Last year both house flooded and the flood plolicy handled through my company was paid in 4 weeks (delayed two of those weeks by FEMA) and the other home insured directly through FEMA/National Flood Program took 6 months to get his first check and then an additional moth to get the remaining balance. When other areas in our area have flooded people have waited month after month to get any response from FEMA but thats long after the news crews have gone home and moved on.

As for the bolded section. I know first hand about what people go through in a loss because I deal with it everyday. I'm actually in the business. My point was all Obama has done is signed off on spending money something he is good at doing (see the 5 trillion he has spent). I never said it was wrong.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Firstdown's idea of small gov't would leave our country resembling Somalia.

Hey now...Somalia finally has a functioning government and I don't believe they have the concept of a filibuster in their parliamentary rules.

As for firstdown, he is a simple man who enjoys the simple things in life so he can hardly be expect to appreciate the complexity of having a federal government. I envy him.

[Dirtbag59]

Right now I predict that this election will either be a close win for Obama or a landslide for Romney. Either way it'll be interesting to see if poll skewing theories are viable.

On a side note:
Economists: Romney's 12 Million Jobs Target Realistic, Even If He Loses : It's All Politics : NPR

"Cold hard facts. Politics completely aside. I'm just doing the numbers," says Zandi. "I feel confident that we're going to create 12 million jobs over the next four years and we're going to feel a lot better about this economy, regardless of who is president."

Kind of funny that whoever wins this might have a chance of claiming responsibility for a full recovery regardless of what they do.

[dmek25]

first, you are actually comparing Obamas response to sandy, and W's response to Katrina? you really have your had in your ass if you think thats even close.
Obama and Christie: A Sandy love story | NJ.com
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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Right now I predict that this election will either be a close win for Obama or a landslide for Romney. Either way it'll be interesting to see if poll skewing theories are viable.

Not looking good brah.


Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

[mlmpetert]

I thought this was pretty neat and worth sharing. No, not Glenn Beck's almighty take on the election, but rather the chalkboard he has resurrected in typical Glenn Beck fashion. A little piece of nostalgia from those who were around to watch the Kennedy Nixon election.


Who Do the Polls Favor to Win the Election With One Week to Go? Stu Has the Answer | Video | TheBlaze.com

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Not looking good brah.


Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

Huffington Post? Thats practically a liberal version of Fox News. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the site but it's hardly impartial.


RCP currently has it at 201 to 191 Obama. And right now Romney is more likely to win Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, and Colorado which are currently in the toss up cateogory.
RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

[NC_Skins]

Isn't there a bet on the line with Sammy and Saden?? (or was it somebody else) Going to be interesting if any of them pay up.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

first, you are actually comparing Obamas response to sandy, and W's response to Katrina? you really have your had in your ass if you think thats even close.
Obama and Christie: A Sandy love story | NJ.com
Capital Tonight « NY's only statewide political program

This was all a said (see below) and at the time was the truth. I was pretty much joking about how Obama is really good at spending money. As for FEMA they might have people on the ground but it will take a long time before people start to see any checks from them. It does not matter who is in office FEMA sucks.

"Obama is doing what he knows how to do best. Hand out money. Other then that what has he done? What we will not see is the people waiting for their checks from FEMA 4 to 6 MONTHS from now if they are luck to get them then. FEMA is a nightmare."

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

Hey now...Somalia finally has a functioning government and I don't believe they have the concept of a filibuster in their parliamentary rules.

As for firstdown, he is a simple man who enjoys the simple things in life so he can hardly be expect to appreciate the complexity of having a federal government. I envy him.

Your right I don't under stand why people have to make simple stuff so complexed and poorly functioning.

[firstdown]

I actually have to correct myself. The National Flood Insurance Program is now under HomeLand Security not FEMA.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Not looking good brah.


Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

Huff Post

Lets look at real numbers:

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Isn't there a bet on the line with Sammy and Saden?? (or was it somebody else) Going to be interesting if any of them pay up.

You are correct, and I know saden is an upstanding guy and will pay promptly upon the Obama concession & Romney victory.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You are correct, and I know saden is an upstanding guy and will pay promptly upon the Obama concession & Romney victory.

What is the bet?!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Huffington Post? Thats practically a liberal version of Fox News. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the site but it's hardly impartial.


RCP currently has it at 201 to 191 Obama. And right now Romney is more likely to win Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, and Colorado which are currently in the toss up cateogory.
RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

Romney's not winning VA, tell you that right now. He'll squeak NC maybe. And Florida is razor close.

Obama's baseline EV is more in the 240 range.