Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by RedskinPete

The OL depth is going to be our down fall and not having a back up plan if Taylor is not able to play in 06! Getting A LB dosen't fill these needs. Didn't we learn any thing from Thomas and Jansen going down? People who don't learn from history are doom to repeat it!!!!!

I think Gibbs likes Mike Pucillo and Tyson Walker for depth. Hopefully we can add to it with our late rounders. But taking a safety or a backup OL at the 2nd round spot would have been irresponsible when we had a gaping hole in the starting lineup at LB.

You don't use a 2nd round pick on a safety because there is a SLIM chance that Sean Taylor will go to jail. And you don't use a 2nd rounder on a backup C/G, not when we have a hole in the STARTING lineup elsewhere, and especially when there aren't any available worthy of a 2nd rounder. I do hope we add to our OL depth, but I'm glad we didn't use a 2nd round pick on it.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

A 29 is still pretty good from what I understand.

[CooleyAsCanBe]

And now he's married, so he knows how to take orders...

[81forHOF]

I feel that if JG and GW liked this guy than he will be a solid player. But I also hate the idea of giving up future drat picks!

If we had not given away our picks for this year than we would have not been in this suituation. Next year we will do the same thing and it will be a viscious circle. The therory of trading away future picks ever year and it never catches up to you is not supported by the fact that we have made the fewest amout of picks since 2000.

This was definately not the first time they pulled the trigger a little prematurely in my opinion. They did it with Cooley, who would have still been on the board (in my opinion-what other team wanted a natural H-back besides us?) when we would of picked. I was pissed by the move at the time but when Cooley turned out to be such a monster player, I'm glad we locked him up when we had the chance. Hopefully, McIntosh will provide me with similiar feelings in the future.

I also believe that we were the only team that would have picked Cambell at the spot we did. Basically, I feel that our coaches are great at selecting talent, and I decided not to second guess Gibbs anymore when Brunell had a good season last year - let's not kid ourselves into thinking that any of us know as much as our coaches, but I also feel that they don't have the balls to sit back and wait for a guy to fall to them. When they want a man they get him no matter what - which is why we also overpay in FA.

I guess McIntosh must have been the apple of thier eyes.

OK, you guys should feel free to boo me for that last line.

[RiggoRules]

Look, I don't know anything about Rocky McIntosh and couldn't pick him out of a line up (given that he is from "The U", that could actually be important later).

But, Gibbs valued him as being worth the 35th pick in the draft and all the published reports I've seen indicate that is fair. There is also no question that the team viewed OLB depth as their top priority in this draft.

So, the question is, Is the 35th pick this year worth this year's 53rd and 189th along with a second round pick next year (probably the 64th)?

The formula used to put a value on draft picks that is used by the Skins probably means that a second round pick next year is worth a 5th round pick this year. In other words, using that valuation, the question becomes, is pick 35 worth #53+189+160?

If you accept the valuation method the Skins appear to be using, it was not a case of overpaying to move up 18 spots and get the guy we wanted. The real cost we're paying is a year away. If the Skins thought there was no one there who would help this year at #53, then it was a great deal.

[EXoffender]

Check these kind words. Kudos Davy...

http://nfldraftalmanac.com/index.php?c=39&a=504

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

Check these kind words. Kudos Davy...

http://nfldraftalmanac.com/index.php?c=39&a=504

it has him projected as a 5th round pick (?), but the writer says he'll be surprised if he falls out of the 2nd.

[ChillWill]

I like the fact that Dale Lindsey spent some time with Rock and liked him.

Some of the scouts say that if not for the shoulder, knee and herniated disc problem he's had over the last 2 years, he could have easily been a 1st round pick.

My only concern with this guy is his ability to get off of blocks. Other than that he's a punishing tackler and has a high motor. He certainly has more
discipline than Lavar and is a great cover guy. He'll get platooned with Clemons and Holdman. Good pick-up IMO.

[mcalderone10]

i think they wanted D'Quell or Rocky and they saw one go and got scared

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by mcalderone10

i think they wanted D'Quell or Rocky and they saw one go and got scared

yeah, the jets called them and they decided not to waste time looking for a cheaper trade partner. gibb said they would have missed him if they waited too much longer. but it still seems like the skins just lock into one player and ignore everyone else. If he goes stud or can contribute immediately isn't not a bad call. if hodge or alston have success while he flounders (which is the less likely senario) it'll be disappointing though.

[mcalderone10]

Originally Posted by That Guy

yeah, the jets called them and they decided not to waste time looking for a cheaper trade partner. gibb said they would have missed him if they waited too much longer. but it still seems like the skins just lock into one player and ignore everyone else.

possible sign of lazyness just scout 2 players u think u can get if one is picked do anything to get the other guy

i would think Dsnyts has too much money to not have the highest paid scouting team in NFL history.

doesn't that sound like DsNyts

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by That Guy

yeah, the jets called them and they decided not to waste time looking for a cheaper trade partner. gibb said they would have missed him if they waited too much longer. but it still seems like the skins just lock into one player and ignore everyone else. If he goes stud or can contribute immediately isn't not a bad call. if hodge or alston have success while he flounders (which is the less likely senario) it'll be disappointing though.

The thing is, if a team drafts a player, they have to work to develop him and that takes time. We simply expect draftees to already be at a certain level when we bring him in. Other teams strategy is to throw rookies and late drat picks into to the fire and hope that they fare well. And that has obvious risks.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

The thing is, if a team drafts a player, they have to work to develop him and that takes time. We simply expect draftees to already be at a certain level when we bring him in. Other teams strategy is to throw rookies and late drat picks into to the fire and hope that they fare well. And that has obvious risks.

speaking of which, the steelers seem to have the most luck throwing rookies in to start. big ben, heath miller, santonio holmes, etc etc.

[That Guy]

well, the good news is the talent level of the guys we got this year is WAY better than last year (where it seems we picked mainly on hype the 2nd day).

we had shots at better talent and passed on it, but we didn't get total bums this time around.

[mcalderone10]

well theres only so much you can do w/ limited picks