Can We Bench Brunell Now

offiss · 10-16-2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I got ya, railcon. Funny how someone mentions the word 'Ramsey' and some people think it's the Warpath's version of Armageddon.

I still believe it's the pride thing with Gibbs. He wants everyone to be sure he was right about Brunell, and we were all wrong. For some stretches, Gibbs had decent forsight about him. But I think we've seen basically all there is to see.

I pretty much was saying the same thing in my previous post Beem before I saw yours, Gibbs has accomplished everything in football except 1 thing and that is being a GM, and I do believe that's a big mountain he want's to conquer, so it's much easier for him to step aside when it comes to play calling because he's proven he was one of the all time great playcallers, but GM is another story, it's the old saying we alway's want what we can't have, and that I feel is Gibbs problem, he wants to be known as a great GM and he hasen't a clue. Beathard kept him stocked with talent that could impose it's will on other teams that makes coaching much easier, well it's not so easy when you don't have dominating talent at all positions.

Let me be the first to bring ARMAGEDDON to the Warpath, RAMSEY!

irish · 10-16-2006, 08:18 AM

Gibbs is never going to bench MB. MB wont be the QB next year, maybe it will be Campbell (maybe not) but all that means is another rebuild year with a new QB learning the system.

#56fanatic · 10-16-2006, 08:25 AM

Brunell is A problem, but maybe not THE problems. Yes he struggles. But come on, we were playing a winless team with the worst rush D in the NFL. Portis ran the ball 15 times, hardly at all in the second half. We were up 14 to 3!! and played like we were down 21 points. Our D could not get off the field, the gave up multiple 3rd and longs, a RB who was fighting for a job a few weeks ago looked like a hall of famer against us. I just dont see the urgency from the team. No pressure, the offense has no identity. it is starting to look like Spurrier is calling the plays from South Carolina. Tennessee ran the ball 41 times!! we got out coached and out played. We were down 3 points with all most 6 minutes to go and we chuck the ball 3 times in a row, are you kidding me!! Like I said, I want to see Campbell too, but when the coaching staff is calling these bullshit plays its hard to see that changing the QB will make any difference. If we put Campbell in, we are essentially saying lets forget this season and get some reps for the kid for next season. You think that will do anything for the locker room? I think it will only break any spirit that is in the locker room. joe has to step up and say look Al, this is what I want to run. screw all these reverses, pitches left, pitches right. we need to run at the D, I saw Randy Thomas come off the field yesterday after that 3 throws and punt towards the end of the game and he looked like he was ready to kill somebody. Our O line wants to play smashmouth football. They carried us to the playoffs last year, lets allow them to do it this year. I think it was Boswells article, we have portis, betts, cartwright, sellers, and duckett. who would be able to stop us if we really wanted to run the ball 40+ times a game? NOBODY!!

724Skinsfan · 10-16-2006, 08:54 AM

You're right about Thomas. That looked to me like it was more than just simple frustration. The question is: What's he going to do? The team needs a leader to step up and call out players and coaches. Maybe, it's being done already but I'll bet it's hard to vocalize your feelings to several former head coaches and a Hall of Fame coach. Maybe the problem is that the players feel since they have the greatest coaching staff ever assembled that it's going to work without their complete dedication or intensity. Maybe not.

Complaining about the offense isn't going to help correct the defense. Even in the games we won the defense didn't look particularly impressive. Against the Jaguars the offense had to put up over a ton of yards to win. The way it looks now our formula for winning is acrue over 450+ yards every game because the defense won't hold the opponent to any less.

TACKLE! Just tackle the ball-carrier!

irish · 10-16-2006, 10:25 AM

Did anyone just hear on Sports Talk 980 where Andy Pollen said that reports said a chant "thank you Mark Brunell" could be heard coming through the closed doors of theTitans locker room after the game.

railcon56 · 10-15-2006, 10:21 PM

well he is behind a much better Qb than Brunell.... but would be nice to have him now....

RedskinRat · 10-15-2006, 10:32 PM

Is anyone else wondering if Brunell's grasp (or lack thereof) is to blame for the awful offensive displays?

railcon56 · 10-15-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Is anyone else wondering if Brunell's grasp (or lack thereof) is to blame for the awful offensive displays?

Does It matter? What's the bottom line a failure is a failure..... That would be just another excuse ... Wins and losses are what counts....

RedskinRat · 10-15-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by railcon56

Does It matter? What's the bottom line a failure is a failure..... That would be just another excuse ... Wins and losses are what counts....

So when a spark plug fails in your engine you scrap the car?

railcon56 · 10-15-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

So when a spark plug fails in your engine you scrap the car?

no you replace the spark plug...with a new one

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-15-2006, 10:43 PM

The reason we bench brunell is because the skins are not going to make the playoffs this year. I'll say it again the skins are not going to make the playoffs this year. Its a fact, give campbell some time to see if the kid can play or not. If he can great, if he cant at least we know before next year. Then maybe we could find a decent qb in fa of draft. Listen we all know its not all brunell fault be he is part of the problem. The defense need to play better,but it doesnt help when your qb doesnt make the play when they are there to be made. Brunell had enough help but he to lock in on moss and doesnt go threw his read like a veteran qb should. When brunell almost threw his first interception when try to pass the ball to portis on the sideline he had portis open early then panicked then threw late lucky it wasnt picked. Yes it was a nice pass to lloyd but damn cant he try to hit him more often and the ball hung up forever and the first play of the second half moss bailed brunell out by coming back and knocking it down. And lastly the last pass he threw was so rookie just throwing the ball up on first down when we had a 60 seconds left. Was a very weak throw. Start Campbell to see what we have for next year, Hail to the skins.

railcon56 · 10-15-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

The reason we bench brunell is because the skins are not going to make the playoffs this year. I'll say it again the skins are not going to make the playoffs this year. Its a fact, give campbell some time to see if the kid can play or not. If he can great, if he cant at least we know before next year. Then maybe we could find a decent qb in fa of draft. Listen we all know its not all brunell fault be he is part of the problem. The defense need to play better,but it doesnt help when your qb doesnt make the play when they are there to be made. Brunell had enough help but he to lock in on moss and doesnt go threw his read like a veteran qb should. When brunell almost threw his first interception when try to pass the ball to portis on the sideline he had portis open early then panicked then threw late lucky it wasnt picked. Yes it was a nice pass to lloyd but damn cant he try to hit him more often and the ball hung up forever and the first play of the second half moss bailed brunell out by coming back and knocking it down. And lastly the last pass he threw was so rookie just throwing the ball up on first down when we had a 60 seconds left. Was a very weak throw. Start Campbell to see what we have for next year, Hail to the skins.

I am still not willing to give it up...we can still make the playoffs...I just wont give up on this season.....

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-15-2006, 10:56 PM

No one want to give up but come on we have to be real here. Look at the rest of the schedule we have when will we be favored? Maybe Little Danny and the Savior coach Joe will try to build the team the rignt way starting now and in the future by benching brunell who not going to lead us anywhere. Lets take our chance on Campbell and see what he has. If Campbel cant play we still be where were at now in last place.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-15-2006, 10:57 PM

Did Brunell play defensive tackle or linebacker today?

Somebody answer that for me.

Beemnseven · 10-15-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Did Brunell play defensive tackle or linebacker today?

Somebody answer that for me.

He might as well have. Who still thinks Golston was a decent find?

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10-16-2006, 08:18 AM	#2
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Gibbs is never going to bench MB. MB wont be the QB next year, maybe it will be Campbell (maybe not) but all that means is another rebuild year with a new QB learning the system.

10-16-2006, 08:25 AM	#3
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Brunell is A problem, but maybe not THE problems. Yes he struggles. But come on, we were playing a winless team with the worst rush D in the NFL. Portis ran the ball 15 times, hardly at all in the second half. We were up 14 to 3!! and played like we were down 21 points. Our D could not get off the field, the gave up multiple 3rd and longs, a RB who was fighting for a job a few weeks ago looked like a hall of famer against us. I just dont see the urgency from the team. No pressure, the offense has no identity. it is starting to look like Spurrier is calling the plays from South Carolina. Tennessee ran the ball 41 times!! we got out coached and out played. We were down 3 points with all most 6 minutes to go and we chuck the ball 3 times in a row, are you kidding me!! Like I said, I want to see Campbell too, but when the coaching staff is calling these bullshit plays its hard to see that changing the QB will make any difference. If we put Campbell in, we are essentially saying lets forget this season and get some reps for the kid for next season. You think that will do anything for the locker room? I think it will only break any spirit that is in the locker room. joe has to step up and say look Al, this is what I want to run. screw all these reverses, pitches left, pitches right. we need to run at the D, I saw Randy Thomas come off the field yesterday after that 3 throws and punt towards the end of the game and he looked like he was ready to kill somebody. Our O line wants to play smashmouth football. They carried us to the playoffs last year, lets allow them to do it this year. I think it was Boswells article, we have portis, betts, cartwright, sellers, and duckett. who would be able to stop us if we really wanted to run the ball 40+ times a game? NOBODY!!

10-16-2006, 08:54 AM	#4
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now You're right about Thomas. That looked to me like it was more than just simple frustration. The question is: What's he going to do? The team needs a leader to step up and call out players and coaches. Maybe, it's being done already but I'll bet it's hard to vocalize your feelings to several former head coaches and a Hall of Fame coach. Maybe the problem is that the players feel since they have the greatest coaching staff ever assembled that it's going to work without their complete dedication or intensity. Maybe not. Complaining about the offense isn't going to help correct the defense. Even in the games we won the defense didn't look particularly impressive. Against the Jaguars the offense had to put up over a ton of yards to win. The way it looks now our formula for winning is acrue over 450+ yards every game because the defense won't hold the opponent to any less. TACKLE! Just tackle the ball-carrier! __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-15-2006, 10:21 PM	#6
railcon56 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 922	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now well he is behind a much better Qb than Brunell.... but would be nice to have him now.... __________________ Run or Pass and Score ..We Want Alot More!!!!

10-16-2006, 10:25 AM	#5
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Did anyone just hear on Sports Talk 980 where Andy Pollen said that reports said a chant "thank you Mark Brunell" could be heard coming through the closed doors of theTitans locker room after the game.

10-15-2006, 10:32 PM	#7
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Is anyone else wondering if Brunell's grasp (or lack thereof) is to blame for the awful offensive displays?

10-15-2006, 10:43 PM	#11
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now The reason we bench brunell is because the skins are not going to make the playoffs this year. I'll say it again the skins are not going to make the playoffs this year. Its a fact, give campbell some time to see if the kid can play or not. If he can great, if he cant at least we know before next year. Then maybe we could find a decent qb in fa of draft. Listen we all know its not all brunell fault be he is part of the problem. The defense need to play better,but it doesnt help when your qb doesnt make the play when they are there to be made. Brunell had enough help but he to lock in on moss and doesnt go threw his read like a veteran qb should. When brunell almost threw his first interception when try to pass the ball to portis on the sideline he had portis open early then panicked then threw late lucky it wasnt picked. Yes it was a nice pass to lloyd but damn cant he try to hit him more often and the ball hung up forever and the first play of the second half moss bailed brunell out by coming back and knocking it down. And lastly the last pass he threw was so rookie just throwing the ball up on first down when we had a 60 seconds left. Was a very weak throw. Start Campbell to see what we have for next year, Hail to the skins.

10-15-2006, 10:56 PM	#13
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now No one want to give up but come on we have to be real here. Look at the rest of the schedule we have when will we be favored? Maybe Little Danny and the Savior coach Joe will try to build the team the rignt way starting now and in the future by benching brunell who not going to lead us anywhere. Lets take our chance on Campbell and see what he has. If Campbel cant play we still be where were at now in last place.

10-15-2006, 10:57 PM	#14
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Did Brunell play defensive tackle or linebacker today? Somebody answer that for me.

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