Give Props to Brunell

FRPLG · 11-05-2006, 11:28 PM

He did what I didn't think he could do, Throw internediate routes decently. I was wary of a few oh his decisions but all in all we can lvie with him playing like that. I didn't feel all game like we were having to over come his deficiencies. He actually brought something to the table.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-06-2006, 09:45 AM

To kind of move away from that a bit, it looks like if anything we have two receivers that, even if they don't catch the ball, are sure to cause pass interference.

Crat92 · 11-06-2006, 10:06 AM

I'm just happy he threw the ball downfield! That's always been my biggest complaint!

Schneed10 · 11-06-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Crat92

I'm just happy he threw the ball downfield! That's always been my biggest complaint!

That's true. He deserves credit for attempting to stretch the defense (and doing it successfully a couple times).

illdefined · 11-06-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Crat92

I'm just happy he threw the ball downfield! That's always been my biggest complaint!

same here. and unfortunately, that means risking INTs, or near INTs. Brunell is so INT averse, he hasn't thrown over the middle regularly in a game all year. with our defense no longer shutting heads down, i'm glad he finally took those risks. it's what it took to win a game.

MTK · 11-06-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

same here. and unfortunately, that means risking INTs, or near INTs. Brunell is so INT averse, he hasn't thrown over the middle regularly in a game all year. with our defense no longer shutting heads down, it's what it took to win a game.

Exactly.

We wanted him to take chances and go down the field more, well guess what? When you do that your chances of throwing a pick is going to increase. That's why it's called taking a chance.

Brunell took some chances yesterday, more than we've seen him take in recent memory, and now people want to blast him for doing exactly what we've wanted. That's being a hypocrite. And that's showing your true colors if you are a Brunell hater.

Southpaw · 11-06-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Brunell took some chances yesterday, more than we've seen him take in recent memory, and now people want to blast him for doing exactly what we've wanted. That's being a hypocrite. And that's showing your true colors if you are a Brunell hater.

I'm actually quite happy with the chances Brunell took yesterday. My only beef with it is if he could do it yesterday, he could have down it all season, instead of waiting until the season is all but over to turn it on...

dmek25 · 11-06-2006, 09:54 AM

good morning malcolm, and its good to see our receivers get seperation( taylor jacobs, are you listening?)

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-06-2006, 09:55 AM

Good morning dmek. And yeah, we all KNEW Moss was fast, but apparently DBs have some SERIOUS trouble covering Lloyd and Randle El.

JWsleep · 11-06-2006, 10:26 AM

My old soccer coach had a saying: "Lose, analyze; win, criticize." (CRT knowswhat I'm talking about!) Criticizing after a win is a way to get better, instead of just letting the fact that we won wash away a mulitude of sins. If Troy Vincent doesn't get the block, if Sean doesn't put on his supernman cape, if Nick doesn't wait for the perfect gust of wind, would that make MBs play aby better or worse? It wouldn't. We need to think about this rationally, as Matty said.

My feeling is that MB made some big throws on some key 3rd downs, and for that he deserves our praise. But he is still very late on his reads--that's why you get the "almost Ints." The plays come open, he sees them late, and he doesn't have the arm to force it in. Hence, the D can recover. It happened a bunch of times, and even on the good long throws, if he sees them quick, they are seriously wide open. Look at the tape. Also, he didn't rush for a first down on two occasions when it sure looked like he could have. He threw one on a thrid and 2-3, and he ran out of bounds on another. He is worried about being hit. (I would worry too, no doubt!!!), and it is affecting his play.

I am convinced, like John Madden, that MB is not the right QB for our system. He didn't lose us the game, and he did make some clutch plays. But he (and the offense) dissapeared for mcuh of the second half, as they have all year. Compare his play to Tony Romo (NOT Peyton. Come on!). Honestly, who was the better QB? Brunnell was part of the win, so he gets props (I suppose Arch does too, by that logic--he tackled Whitten before he got a TD, at least). But he was just average, IMHO, and ARE threw the biggest pass of the day for the skins. See what happens when you pressure a D deep? Good things.

MB won a repreieve for now (by "fighting his guts out," no doubt). But that's it. And he won the repreieve becuase Troy Vincent blocked his first kick, and the best TO returner in the league picked up the ball, not becuase of his great QB play.

MTK · 11-06-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

My old soccer coach had a saying: "Lose, analyze; win, criticize."

I like that but with some people it's win, lose, or tie... criticize.

The Zimmermans · 11-06-2006, 10:37 AM

He played well enough this week. We didnt' give him a chance to make the big play on 3rd and two on the dallas 30, instead we handed off the ball which was fine. However, if we decided to throw or qb sneak on that big 3rd down, we would be able to analyze his performance in more detail. If he plays well next week, than he has proven his stay at QB, if not, then his inconsistancy has become a major issue. For now, start brunell, we are still alive.

redsk1 · 11-06-2006, 10:54 AM

MB actually made some great throws down the middle of the field yesterday which was great. I think that is the first time i've seen it this year. So, for that i give him and the team credit.

What a great game and i loved it. A classic finish. I'm going to enjoy this one all week.

Brunell kept us in the game, made a couple plays, made a few mistakes (should've been int's). So he is what he is. Not going to lose the game for you, probably won't win it for you. I thought Romo looked really good and outplayed Brunell.

Just b/c i'm critical, doesn't mean i doesn't mean i'm not going to enjoy this W.

The Zimmermans · 11-06-2006, 11:15 AM

The pass protection was terrific, that was one of the major factors considering how easy it is to get to brunell and knock him down.

firstdown · 11-06-2006, 11:19 AM

He played good today. I'm not sure if the coaches told him to take a few more chances with the ball but he did make a few questionable throws.

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11-05-2006, 11:28 PM	#1
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Give Props to Brunell He did what I didn't think he could do, Throw internediate routes decently. I was wary of a few oh his decisions but all in all we can lvie with him playing like that. I didn't feel all game like we were having to over come his deficiencies. He actually brought something to the table.

11-06-2006, 09:45 AM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Give Props to Brunell To kind of move away from that a bit, it looks like if anything we have two receivers that, even if they don't catch the ball, are sure to cause pass interference. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-06-2006, 10:06 AM	#3
Crat92 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Age: 52 Posts: 474	Re: Give Props to Brunell I'm just happy he threw the ball downfield! That's always been my biggest complaint! __________________ BEWARE THE MIDDLE............LaRON LANDRY IS LURKING!

11-06-2006, 09:54 AM	#8
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Give Props to Brunell good morning malcolm, and its good to see our receivers get seperation( taylor jacobs, are you listening?) __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-06-2006, 09:55 AM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Give Props to Brunell Good morning dmek. And yeah, we all KNEW Moss was fast, but apparently DBs have some SERIOUS trouble covering Lloyd and Randle El. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-06-2006, 10:26 AM	#10
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 57 Posts: 4,719	Re: Give Props to Brunell My old soccer coach had a saying: "Lose, analyze; win, criticize." (CRT knowswhat I'm talking about!) Criticizing after a win is a way to get better, instead of just letting the fact that we won wash away a mulitude of sins. If Troy Vincent doesn't get the block, if Sean doesn't put on his supernman cape, if Nick doesn't wait for the perfect gust of wind, would that make MBs play aby better or worse? It wouldn't. We need to think about this rationally, as Matty said. My feeling is that MB made some big throws on some key 3rd downs, and for that he deserves our praise. But he is still very late on his reads--that's why you get the "almost Ints." The plays come open, he sees them late, and he doesn't have the arm to force it in. Hence, the D can recover. It happened a bunch of times, and even on the good long throws, if he sees them quick, they are seriously wide open. Look at the tape. Also, he didn't rush for a first down on two occasions when it sure looked like he could have. He threw one on a thrid and 2-3, and he ran out of bounds on another. He is worried about being hit. (I would worry too, no doubt!!!), and it is affecting his play. I am convinced, like John Madden, that MB is not the right QB for our system. He didn't lose us the game, and he did make some clutch plays. But he (and the offense) dissapeared for mcuh of the second half, as they have all year. Compare his play to Tony Romo (NOT Peyton. Come on!). Honestly, who was the better QB? Brunnell was part of the win, so he gets props (I suppose Arch does too, by that logic--he tackled Whitten before he got a TD, at least). But he was just average, IMHO, and ARE threw the biggest pass of the day for the skins. See what happens when you pressure a D deep? Good things. MB won a repreieve for now (by "fighting his guts out," no doubt). But that's it. And he won the repreieve becuase Troy Vincent blocked his first kick, and the best TO returner in the league picked up the ball, not becuase of his great QB play. __________________ Hail from Houston!

11-06-2006, 10:37 AM	#12
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Give Props to Brunell He played well enough this week. We didnt' give him a chance to make the big play on 3rd and two on the dallas 30, instead we handed off the ball which was fine. However, if we decided to throw or qb sneak on that big 3rd down, we would be able to analyze his performance in more detail. If he plays well next week, than he has proven his stay at QB, if not, then his inconsistancy has become a major issue. For now, start brunell, we are still alive. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-06-2006, 10:54 AM	#13
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Give Props to Brunell MB actually made some great throws down the middle of the field yesterday which was great. I think that is the first time i've seen it this year. So, for that i give him and the team credit. What a great game and i loved it. A classic finish. I'm going to enjoy this one all week. Brunell kept us in the game, made a couple plays, made a few mistakes (should've been int's). So he is what he is. Not going to lose the game for you, probably won't win it for you. I thought Romo looked really good and outplayed Brunell. Just b/c i'm critical, doesn't mean i doesn't mean i'm not going to enjoy this W.

11-06-2006, 11:15 AM	#14
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Give Props to Brunell The pass protection was terrific, that was one of the major factors considering how easy it is to get to brunell and knock him down. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-06-2006, 11:19 AM	#15
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 62 Posts: 15,817	Re: Give Props to Brunell He played good today. I'm not sure if the coaches told him to take a few more chances with the ball but he did make a few questionable throws.

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