Vince Young overrated?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-28-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, I do live in Texas Longhorn country.

Again, I don't hate him...just his game. He's the most overrated player since Vick came out of college, and a top 5 ever.

In college he was an absolute beast. But, if you don't like the Longhorns I can understand why you don't like him as a player.

jsarno · 10-28-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

In college he was an absolute beast. But, if you don't like the Longhorns I can understand why you don't like him as a player.

I think it really has more to do with how everyone put him on a pedastal last year.
I am not a big fan of Texas that's for sure, but I didn't really hate his game in college...it grew from the day he made the Titans teams to now. He's really just not very good.
So maybe the seed was planted in college, and after everyone loved him last year that made it grow to what it is today.

HughHog · 10-29-2007, 12:00 PM

IMO Vince Young is the most underrated player in the NFL. All he does is win, yet he's bashed nonstop.

TheBigD · 10-30-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HughHog

IMO Vince Young is the most underrated player in the NFL. All he does is win, yet he's bashed nonstop.

It is because there are people like Jsarno (not intended as insult) who care a good deal about stats. Marino did not win an SB but was voted to the HOF because he had good stats and records that are being broken one after another.

I am with you, he is an underrated player. But shhhh...be quiet, don't let Jsarno know you think he is UNDERRATED, that might give him a heart attack.

SuperFan99 · 10-29-2007, 11:05 PM

When it comes to grading young QBs, I don't look at stats . . . I look at Ws and how they guy plays in the 4th quarter under pressure. I think Vince Young is the best QB from last year's crop . . . so far.

jsarno · 10-29-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFan99

When it comes to grading young QBs, I don't look at stats . . . I look at Ws and how they guy plays in the 4th quarter under pressure. I think Vince Young is the best QB from last year's crop . . . so far.

Good to know...he's now 12 out of 21 in terms of wins. (not bad, but not great). He has a 78.4 passer rating in the 4th quarter this year, and a 70.5 passer rating in the 4th in 06. Not a very good couple of gauges to judge him by.

jsarno · 11-07-2007, 11:06 PM

Just because I know you guys have been waiting for this:
Vince Young threw for a meezly 110, 0 tds, 2 ints. 25 yards rushing and 1 td.

His qb rating is down to 61.5.
In 7 games, he has thrown for only 855 yards, 3 tds and 8 ints.

FYI, he has a 54.8% comp % in the 4th quarter this year, the worst of all 4 quarters. Also and unimpressive 71.0 rating in the 4th.

bertoskins2 · 11-08-2007, 11:21 AM

Both have the same weak supporting cast, though vince has a better group of OL right now

campbell maybe is a better passer at this stage, but vince has more intangibles,leadership , a better athlete and improviser which translates into win in the field.

steveo395 · 11-08-2007, 12:15 PM

The Titans win because they have the #2 defense in the league, with the #1 rush defense. They have only allowed 12.6 points per game in the games where Vince Young started. Remember Kyle Orton in 2005? He won tons of games, but nobody said it was because of him.

jsarno · 11-09-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

The Titans win because they have the #2 defense in the league, with the #1 rush defense. They have only allowed 12.6 points per game in the games where Vince Young started. Remember Kyle Orton in 2005? He won tons of games, but nobody said it was because of him.

Exactly.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 11-08-2007, 06:57 PM

not a big fan of Vince but they do keep on winning. Think he a ok QB

Campbell17 · 11-10-2007, 12:35 PM

In his second year, he is as good as any QB in the NFL after Brady/Manning, he is in the mix with Romo, Big Ben, Favre, Eli, Brees, etc. I think he is the next big QB on the rise, and will be looked at as # 1 in 5 or so years.

DiehardSkin88 · 11-10-2007, 12:43 PM

vince young is the most over rated qb in the league

Campbell17 · 11-10-2007, 12:46 PM

nope, it's Eli

jsarno · 11-10-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Campbell17

nope, it's Eli

Considering there are a TON of people that criticize Eli and NONE that do Young, I am afraid you're wrong. A lot of people say Eli sucks, including Giants fans, how many do you hear that say Young sucks????

Give it time though, Eli started with a ton of hype and took a lot of time before people called him overrated, the same will happen with young. People are still dazzled by his legs and overlook his shortcomings with his arm. Vick's luster also died out, Young's will too.

10-29-2007, 12:00 PM	#3
HughHog Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28	Re: Vince Young overrated? IMO Vince Young is the most underrated player in the NFL. All he does is win, yet he's bashed nonstop.

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SuperFan99 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 32	Re: Vince Young overrated? When it comes to grading young QBs, I don't look at stats . . . I look at Ws and how they guy plays in the 4th quarter under pressure. I think Vince Young is the best QB from last year's crop . . . so far.

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jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 51 Posts: 9,534	Re: Vince Young overrated? Just because I know you guys have been waiting for this: Vince Young threw for a meezly 110, 0 tds, 2 ints. 25 yards rushing and 1 td. His qb rating is down to 61.5. In 7 games, he has thrown for only 855 yards, 3 tds and 8 ints. FYI, he has a 54.8% comp % in the 4th quarter this year, the worst of all 4 quarters. Also and unimpressive 71.0 rating in the 4th. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

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bertoskins2 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Age: 52 Posts: 260	Re: Vince Young overrated? Both have the same weak supporting cast, though vince has a better group of OL right now campbell maybe is a better passer at this stage, but vince has more intangibles,leadership , a better athlete and improviser which translates into win in the field.

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