Who called the 2nd timeout?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Ocliw

How old are you anyway?

Don't waste time on this clown, he'll be banned by the end of the day hopefully..

[RiggoDrill]

What I don't understand is why the ref didn't just tell him when he called the timeout that he couldn't do it?

For one thing, it's not the referees job to explain the rules to a coach. Some refs do, some don't, but they are not required to. And in all honesty, Gibbs CAN call back-to-back timeouts to ice the kicker, and he did, and was penalized for it in accordance with the rules. As someone said earlier - Rookie mistake.

---but---

Didt hat cost the team the game? No, not even close, that was just the final mistake of a game that was lost late in the 3rd quarter when the Skins offense shut down, again, and put the burden of winning on the shoulders of the defense and special teams. With about 4 minutes to go and the score 16-14, I turned to my friend (a Bills fan, actually from Buffalo too!) and said, "Don't worry, you will get the ball back at least one more time." Then I watched, somewhat bewildered, as a team that had been averaging a whopping 2 yds per carry, ran the ball on three straight plays, failed to get a first down (getting even 1 would have ended the game), then headed off the field to force the special teams and defense to not lose the game. I was not surprised in the least to see a ROOKIE quarterback, playing on the road, in the rain, move the ball down the field and into field goal range against a defense that was applying ZERO pressure on him.
The sad reality is that Redskins are not a very good football team. Jason Campbell may have potential, but presently he is a turnover machine (Dave Krieg might be worried that his NFL record for most fumbles is in jeopardy!). Yeah Yeah Yeah, he is in his first year as a starter, blah blah blah only 19 starts, yadda yadda yadda give him some more time - STUFF IT Skins apologists. We are all in love with a very mediocre football team that is not really showing signs of getting better.

[chocho]

blami it on the ref gibbs this team has an excuss for every loss 1 out of six dam there on the way to the playoffs

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by chocho

blami it on the ref gibbs this team has an excuss for every loss 1 out of six dam there on the way to the playoffs

Me fail English...that's unpossible!

[chocho]

if you cant handle the truth and want to get personal maybe we can figure this out

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by chocho

if you cant handle the truth and want to get personal maybe we can figure this out

I just don't understand what your argument is.

[Broncos4life]

Originally Posted by chocho

if you cant handle the truth and want to get personal maybe we can figure this out

32 year old internet thugs are hilarious. Punctuation and spelling owns you. Obviously you don't know all that much about football because though you claim your knowledge out shines all you have yet to make one valid point nor have you used one term that could be considered any type of football vocabulary.


To the real skins fans: i was watching the game yesterday and felt so bad that you could not pull out the win. Then, to see my beloved Broncos lose to the raiders and basically put us out of the wildcard picture really crushed me. Well, i guess its mock draft time.


P.S: i am watching the ST funeral service now, very very nice/classy ceremony.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by chocho

if you cant handle the truth and want to get personal maybe we can figure this out

Go away.

[MTK]

chocho = gone

bye d-bag

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

chocho = gone

bye d-bag

Thanks, now back to our regularly scheduled argument..

[Broncos4life]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

chocho = gone

bye d-bag

[memphisskin]

Under NFL rules, the same team cannot call consecutive timeouts. If the officials incorrectly acknowledge the consecutive timeout, the clock is immediately started and the timeout negated. There is no penalty for this act, unless the purpose of the second timeout is to startle and cause a false start by the offensive team. In this situation, an unsportsmanlike conduct foul could be called on the defensive team. Under college rules, consecutive team timeouts are legal, and a team could call all of the team timeouts in succession.

When the penalty was called I googled this immediately. This is in reference to a Colts-Bears game in 2005 when the Bears tried to call 2 timeouts in a row. Seems the unsportsmanlike conduct call is a judgment call. Its not an unsportsmanlike penalty for trying to call a timeout you don't have, so this ruling is baffling to me.

Here's the link. Jerry Markbreit's answers on ChicagoSports.com

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Under NFL rules, the same team cannot call consecutive timeouts. If the officials incorrectly acknowledge the consecutive timeout, the clock is immediately started and the timeout negated. There is no penalty for this act, unless the purpose of the second timeout is to startle and cause a false start by the offensive team. In this situation, an unsportsmanlike conduct foul could be called on the defensive team. Under college rules, consecutive team timeouts are legal, and a team could call all of the team timeouts in succession.

When the penalty was called I googled this immediately. This is in reference to a Colts-Bears game in 2005 when the Bears tried to call 2 timeouts in a row. Seems the unsportsmanlike conduct call is a judgment call. Its not an unsportsmanlike penalty for trying to call a timeout you don't have, so this ruling is baffling to me.

Here's the link. Jerry Markbreit's answers on ChicagoSports.com

The rule was amended following the 2005 season to include an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for calling consecutive timeouts to try to "ice" the kicker.

So you spend some 20+ years as a coach in the NFL and all you get is a slap on the wrist, in the past year and a half the rule changes but you have a mental lapse and blow it. It is what it is.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The rule was amended following the 2005 season to include an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for calling consecutive timeouts to try to "ice" the kicker.

So you spend some 20+ years as a coach in the NFL and all you get is a slap on the wrist, in the past year and a half the rule changes but you have a mental lapse and blow it. It is what it is.

Oops, my bad. Thanks for the correction.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Oops, my bad. Thanks for the correction.

All good. It's also not a penalty if the kicker isn't on the field. And not unsportsmanlike if you can prove the reason a time-out was called was for any reason other than trying to "ice" the kicker.

The ramifications of the rule are kind of vague. I would venture to say that a lot of people who are saying they knew the rule and all that it encompassed are just saying that.