JC is not what I thought.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

One game and I am already tired of the haters.

It doesn't take long for the sky to fall around here. Hell it was already on it's way down in the preseason. The doom and gloomers are touching themselves today.

[doughtydoubter]

It doesn't take long for the sky to fall around here. Hell it was already on it's way down in the preseason. The doom and gloomers are touching themselves

I think people are just freaked right now. They just wanted to see SOMETHING productive. New coach or not, we were a team on the cusp of turning that final corner. I think the transition from gibbs, to zorn...from a man we call a legend, to another with no experience outside of qb whatsoever is going to be a tough one that most people are going to have "sky is falling" attitude.
We just want some hope that this is the right move, the right decision, that he is a man the players will go to war for..and lay it on the line for. We dont need a coach that is "trying to figure out" his offense on us as his trial run...

[SouperMeister]

Show me a QB who didn't suck at first in the WCO. Brett Favre was a turnover machine at first. I don't expect Campbell to look smooth in the offense until next season. He has to trust that his 2nd and 3rd reads will be there, which was the problem on the first play. For him to become a great QB, we have to be willing to suffer through Campbell's growing pains.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Show me a QB who didn't suck at first in the WCO. Brett Favre was a turnover machine at first. I don't expect Campbell to look smooth in the offense until next season. He has to trust that his 2nd and 3rd reads will be there, which was the problem on the first play. For him to become a great QB, we have to be willing to suffer through Campbell's growing pains.

It's unfortunate that a QB such as JC has to undergoe another offensive playbook. But his inability to make the reads will improve after this game. He certainly tried to get the ball out on third down conversions. But the playcalling was not favorable. This is a learning tool for everyone and if Jim Zorn thought he was going to ride this West Coast offense in the NFC East without serious opposition he is seriously mistaken.

[doughtydoubter]

I dont give up on jason..not yet...i love colt...but i think the flaws are coaching ones right now.

[SmootSmack]

I thought Campbell improved (realized he had nowhere to go but up really) quite a bit in the second half. We would singing a different tune I think if the WRs had converted some of those 3rd down completions.

[davy]

I gave up on Campbell being an elite QB during the Bears game last year. He just doesn't have what it takes. The transformation in the offence when Collins came in confirmed that.

[doughtydoubter]

collins ONLY played well because saunders called the plays....and it was a system collins has been in since wwii....if you stuck collins in this system we wouldnt have even posted a td...so all you collins lovers and campbell haters get it out of your system and face the fact that an aging collins would not come in and lead this team to the superbowl..neither would colt.
What dissapoints me about jason..is that we have had since feb to learn and nurture him. It was apparent to see everyones frustration....did you see portis telling zonr what he was doing wasnt working n the sideline? That to me shows that these players are like...umm ok..this is lame...not working

[saden1]

Zorn is to blame for this game followed by the offensive line. What a pathetic display. I didn't like JC's play but then again when the play calling is shit you produce shit.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

Zorn is to blame for this game followed by the offensive line. What a pathetic display. I didn't like JC's play but then again when the play calling is shit you produce shit.

Do you think Zorn is taking on too much this early on his head coaching career as not only head coach, but also offensive coordinator and QB coach?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Do you think Zorn is taking on too much this early on his head coaching career as not only head coach, but also offensive coordinator and QB coach?

I think you can multi-task and he really has nothing to do with the defensive side so his only job is to coach the offense as a unit and the QBs. The problem is he doesn't seem to know what he's doing. Cooley was hardly used and I'm think Cooley and Portis are the guy he would go to early and often.

The thing that really helped me lose confidence in him was clock management down two scores. Calling run plays and taking their time with 4 minuses left?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

I think you can multi-task and he really has nothing to do with the defensive side so his only job is to coach the offense as a unit and the QBs. The problem is he doesn't seem to know what he's doing. Cooley was hardly used and I'm think Cooley and Portis are the guy he would go to early and often.

The thing that really helped me lose confidence in him was clock management down two scores. Calling run plays and taking their time with 4 minuses left?

According to Zorn, he wanted to use Cooley more but got hampered by false starts. The clock management issues were certainly disconcerting. That needs to be improved. On the bright side, no wasted time outs.

[doughtydoubter]

seriously...lets give campbell a game where he has time and the run/pass ratio gives him a chance to win the game and play like hes capable before we all decide to burn him to a cross and send him to be romos backup. He is only doing what his coach told him to do.
Dont hate

[davy]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

seriously...lets give campbell a game where he has time and the run/pass ratio gives him a chance to win the game and play like hes capable before we all decide to burn him to a cross and send him to be romos backup. He is only doing what his coach told him to do.
Dont hate

Oh the irony!

A user named doughtydoubter appealing for folks not to give up on Campbell.

[budw38]

[quote=davy;472897]Oh the irony!

A user named doughtydoubter appealing for folks not to give up on Campbell.
We did spend , 2 1st's , a 2nd and a 4th for Doughty ,, he should dominate ,,,,,, oh Thats what we gave up for JC ...... we better bring in some fresh blood on our O-DL's next year ,,,, they are not getting any younger .