2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts

[gaudiomatt]

If they cut Washington, Springs, Taylor and Daniels we'll have a lot of cap space. I see no reason to keep them they don't perform for what they're paid. Pisses me off how vinny worships Springs yet the man won't play if he has a scratch on him.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by gaudiomatt

If they cut Washington, Springs, Taylor and Daniels we'll have a lot of cap space. I see no reason to keep them they don't perform for what they're paid. Pisses me off how vinny worships Springs yet the man won't play if he has a scratch on him.

Yeah I think that gives us about 17 million in cap room (remember we're starting 3 million over) and then after resigning our own players, including Hall, we'll be looking at about 7 or so million left over for FA. This is my best guess but I could be wrong. Anywho IMHO we need to address OLB first and foremost in FA (assuming we take one of the top OTs @13). If we're going to pay big dollars in FA this year it should be a OLB and Suggs would be the very best. He's an obvious upgrade over Marcus.

... i'm always starting to wonder whether it's absolutely necessary to replace Daniels if the FO is smart enough to cut him. Evans is serviceable and a big upgrade at OLB is arguably going to do us more good than a big upgrade at end. Anyway Peppers is probably the only potential big upgrade FA end anyway and he's not coming here.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by gaudiomatt

If they cut Washington, Springs, Taylor and Daniels we'll have a lot of cap space. I see no reason to keep them they don't perform for what they're paid. Pisses me off how vinny worships Springs yet the man won't play if he has a scratch on him.

If these guys played on teams other than the Skins and where available as FA's would we go after any of them. Just a thought. I don't like the idea of cutting Taylor.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 44ever

If these guys played on teams other than the Skins and where available as FA's would we go after any of them. Just a thought. I don't like the idea of cutting Taylor.

That's exactly what i find irritating... we'd probably go after all but Daniels and break the bank on them. Cut 'em and get younger.

[Daseal]

He's an obvious upgrade over Marcus.

I wouldn't be so sure. Suggs was a DE in college, and has only played in a 3-4 scheme as more or less a stand up rusher. I don't think he's a lock to be a good 4-3 'backer. If we're looking at FA D players. Lets raid the AZ Cardinals. Both Karlos Dansby and Darnell Dockett are FAs, young, and beasts. Suggs has also openly stated he would give Baltimore a hometown discount.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I wouldn't be so sure. Suggs was a DE in college, and has only played in a 3-4 scheme as more or less a stand up rusher. I don't think he's a lock to be a good 4-3 'backer. If we're looking at FA D players. Lets raid the AZ Cardinals. Both Karlos Dansby and Darnell Dockett are FAs, young, and beasts. Suggs has also openly stated he would give Baltimore a hometown discount.

I'm all for Dansby but Dockett isn't a FA.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I wouldn't be so sure. Suggs was a DE in college, and has only played in a 3-4 scheme as more or less a stand up rusher. I don't think he's a lock to be a good 4-3 'backer. If we're looking at FA D players. Lets raid the AZ Cardinals. Both Karlos Dansby and Darnell Dockett are FAs, young, and beasts. Suggs has also openly stated he would give Baltimore a hometown discount.

Good points on Suggs... i know he's not proven in the 4-3 system but you just look at the guy being a beast figure he'll be pretty good wherever he lines up, sort of how people view Jason Taylor but i think Suggs is much stronger against the run and an overall better fit for our system. If Marcus is on his way out for sure I'd prefer cutting Taylor and bringing in Suggs over letting Taylor "roam" all over as a OLB. Dansby could command a higher payday having played in the SB.

... we're going to have to dish out some major dough to upgrade the position through FA and i would just feel more confident w/ Suggs. A year younger and plays in a way tougher division than Dansby.

[RedskinMike]

would love to get dockett he is a beast and a local guy at that

[Nflnick11]

Is dockett a free agent cause I didn't hear or see that anywhere... If he is, the cards will just franchise him... But the good news about that is that karlos dansby will be a free agent without the franchise tag, and last I checked, we need a young OLB.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Is dockett a free agent cause I didn't hear or see that anywhere... If he is, the cards will just franchise him... But the good news about that is that karlos dansby will be a free agent without the franchise tag, and last I checked, we need a young OLB.

just checked on dockett, and he is under contract through 2011 so that sucks

[Ruhskins]

It appears that we will not have enough money for a big time FA. I think at best we may pick up some serviceable guys in free agency, but I don't expect the team to go a after the likes of Suggs, or even Dansby (whose price went up b/c of the Superbowl). I just hope they focus on the offensive line either through free agency or the draft.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It appears that we will not have enough money for a big time FA. I think at best we may pick up some serviceable guys in free agency, but I don't expect the team to go a after the likes of Suggs, or even Dansby (whose price went up b/c of the Superbowl). I just hope they focus on the offensive line either through free agency or the draft.

Again I could be dead wrong but it looks like we'll have about 6 or 7 million in cap space if we cut Springs, Taylor, Daniels and Marcus. That should be enough to make one big FA signing or grab a couple of value guys depending on our needs.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Again I could be dead wrong but it looks like we'll have about 6 or 7 million in cap space if we cut Springs, Taylor, Daniels and Marcus. That should be enough to make one big FA signing or grab a couple of value guys depending on our needs.

you're right Goat. But I still say we keep Taylor and go after a couple of value guys than cut what would be the hottest FA if not for injuries for another "big" FA. I would like to see us get value out of Taylor if possible. Tired of getting burnt on these big FA's.

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Again I could be dead wrong but it looks like we'll have about 6 or 7 million in cap space if we cut Springs, Taylor, Daniels and Marcus. That should be enough to make one big FA signing or grab a couple of value guys depending on our needs.

First we need to see what position in the draft is the strongest and what positions we need... The draft has a lot of centers, and tackles. A decent amount of WRs. No break away speed backs. A lot of great DEs very few DTs, a good amount of OLBs. And a of amount of corners. The free agent market has only one really good DT,a really good DE, a lot of OLinemen, and couple real good OLBs,and a proven punter
** and a good amount of corners

[LandrySlice]

Lets Just Hope We Get Vinny Gone And Go From There!