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Old 03-19-2009, 06:47 PM   #1
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This discussion isn't about me against you or about me against Mack. I think Mack is also a great player, but there's no reason to ignore his weaknesses to build him up. And in the same way, you also cannot ignore the weaknesses on the redskins. The weakness for the redskins last year was the offensive unit, more specifically, the offensive line; and more specific than that, the right tackle spot. Rabach was the least of the redskins worries on the offensive line last season, considering the injuries and the play of both Heyer and Jansen.

And about Clay Matthews, I could be wrong about him (so-called experts are wrong all the time). But I've seen enough of him to know that this guy is one dimensional. If you want to have a discussion to support that he's a first rounder; that's fine, but if you want to argue with me about how much film i've watched of him - don't do it.
Why? I would think how much you've seen of a player would be an important part of being able to intelligently discuss him.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:00 PM   #2
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Why? I would think how much you've seen of a player would be an important part of being able to intelligently discuss him.
Yeah, I've seen enough to go by. I'm interested ... what can you intelligently discuss about him?

Like Mack, he's the man, he's agressive and he has faults but can be explained away?
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Yeah, I've seen enough to go by. I'm interested ... what can you intelligently discuss about him?

Like Mack, he's the man, he's agressive and he has faults but can be explained away?
I don't know enough about him to really discuss him.
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:57 AM   #4
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Man people sure are loving Mack. I just wonder if he would even be on our radar at #13. I think alot of people are building themselves up for a big disappointment.
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Man people sure are loving Mack. I just wonder if he would even be on our radar at #13. I think alot of people are building themselves up for a big disappointment.
Matty I would be as surprised as anyone if we actually took him. Fortunately there's a lot of good players who could help us out there.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:59 AM   #6
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Center is generally considered the easiest position o-line right? I've no doubt Mack is a phenom but can he make the impact that say 1) and phenom LB can make 2) a phenom DT or DE can make for a team? Or think of it this way: is there a center in the league who's made the kind of impact for his team Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Peppers or big Al have all made for their respective teams? I think if there's a potential LB, DT, DE phenom available @ 13 (assuming the top OT talent is already off the board) it think the FO has to go w/ one of those options.
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:18 AM   #7
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Center is generally considered the easiest position o-line right? I've no doubt Mack is a phenom but can he make the impact that say 1) and phenom LB can make 2) a phenom DT or DE can make for a team? Or think of it this way: is there a center in the league who's made the kind of impact for his team Ray Lewis, Urlacher, Peppers or big Al have all made for their respective teams? I think if there's a potential LB, DT, DE phenom available @ 13 (assuming the top OT talent is already off the board) it think the FO has to go w/ one of those options.
Why do you figure that?

It's probably the hardest considering the center typically makes the line calls and needs to make pre-snap reads of the D.
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Why do you figure that?

It's probably the hardest considering the center typically makes the line calls and needs to make pre-snap reads of the D.
I mean this is basically my opinion Matty however i read an ESPN article (Ross Tucker was the writer I think) that broke down the o-line by position, rating each spot by difficulty and importance etc. If memory serves he said center was the easiest to play and more or less requires the least talent to be successful. Personally I would have thought one of the guard positions is easiest. Both tackle positions are more difficult/important than center IMHO.

... I'll try to find a link to that article when I have time cuz I enjoyed reading it and thought it was pretty interesting.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:46 PM   #9
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Why do you figure that?

It's probably the hardest considering the center typically makes the line calls and needs to make pre-snap reads of the D.
Hey ya'll, I found the Ross Tucker article referred to earlier where he gives order of importance when it comes to the o-line. Center is last (or least depending how you look at it)...

There's a nice pic of Samuels dominating btw.

SI.com - Writers - Ross Tucker: Ranking the five O-line positions - Friday April 4, 2008 11:53AM
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Re: I give you the first 12 picks, Give me your Redskins draft pick!

Sorry, but I cannot see using a 1st round pick on a Center.
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:10 AM   #11
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Sorry, but I cannot see using a 1st round pick on a Center.
Mack and Unger are being projected as low first round picks. Given our needs at RT, DE, and LB, I agree with you. Hopefully we'll get lucky and one of the top Tackles or LBs fall to us.
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Skills wise maybe, but mentally you have to be pretty with it to play center.
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I'm going to change my pick to the newly sculptured Aaron Maybin..
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:58 AM   #14
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I'm going to go with Rey, after seeing he's available @ 13, I love his motor, and aggressiveness..
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:01 PM   #15
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I'm going to go with Rey, after seeing he's available @ 13, I love his motor, and aggressiveness..
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