can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

DUDE WTF are you smoking??? stop drinking and go to bed

Man it would be sick if that was Reed Doughty

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Man it would be sick if that was Reed Doughty

Nah. It's just Trample.

I thought it was kinda funny though..

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Nah. It's just Trample.

I thought it was kinda funny though..

I hope you are right, because I like Reed Doughty.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by beanpot143

Juggernaut is right...Campbell is pathetic. Missed passes,looks scared, he is not our franchise QB!!! Zorn is an idiot, he has now idea how to run a football team. He would be a nice QB coach, THAT's IT!!! It's time to stop our excuses for Campbell, oh new OC, o new system, new this new that....how about he is just NOT that good!!!!!! At best we are an 8-8 team!!! If you can live with that, then you can live with Campbell and Zorn, I can't!!!!

Why was he pathetic? He did fine, shaky start, but he pulled it together. It is too bad Zorn didn't have him in shotgun the entire game or this could have been a Skin blowout.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Why was he pathetic? He did fine, shaky start, but he pulled it together. It is too bad Zorn didn't have him in shotgun the entire game or this could have been a Skin blowout.

I guess Zorn has not figured out that JC does better in the shot gun. He can see the defense better, has more time to throw, can step up into the pocket better, doesn't have to do 2 things at one time like count your back peddles/ use good foot technique/ and go through his progressions all at the same time.

Maybe they should look into keeping him in the shot gun and running a hurry up offense all season. It seemed to work at the end of the game.

[skinsfan69]

Zorn is not a very good play caller nor does he trust Campbell. Some of those trick plays were horseshit. I want to see Devin Thomas catch passes, not run reverses.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by juggernaunt

can we please begin to start the conversation the either cowher or shannahan will be here by our bye week. also which QB do we build around bradford, snead, tebow, or Mc Coy.

I swear, anyone under 50 posts should not be allowed to start a thread....actually no one should start threads the day game...just have a game thread, and after the game a positive thread and a negative thread.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

DUDE WTF are you smoking??? stop drinking and go to bed

I don't drink or use. Lighten up! It's not like we lost . . . . Oh yeah, damn!

[dgack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Zorn is not a very good play caller nor does he trust Campbell. Some of those trick plays were horseshit. I want to see Devin Thomas catch passes, not run reverses.

Again, Quoted for Mother F**king Truth.

Though even I have to admit the fake field goal was pretty badass. Who knew Hunter the Punter was the best tailback we had on the roster.

[duetsch215]

Zorn is a double threat as a terrible coach. 1. He is a terrible motivator. The Redskins were not confident whatsoever and if you cant get hyped about opening week against a division rival what game are you going to get hyped over. 2. He is an absolute terrible play caller. The first play from scrimmage, everyone blocked effectively and Portis ran for 34 yards. The very next play, He called a trick WR pass with Randle EL. This gave the momentum right back to the giants and the skins never seemed to recover from that.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by hagams

Since I didn't get to watch the game, maybe I'm a little more pleased than most. The NFC Beast is the hardest division in football, and the G-spots are on top of the division. I didn't get to check the score after the fake FG, and we were down 0-17 before that. Looking at the stats, JC had a decent game against one of the most dominate front four in the league. I did notice a lot of 10-15 yard plays going for the Giants, but it really looks like we clamped down on them the second half.

Bottom line: It's game one of a long season and if we stayed close with the Giants, we can run with any team in the league.

Observation: Two seasons ago we couldn't finish a game to save our lives, I hope this years problem isn't starting the game slow. HTTR!!!! Semper Fidelis!!!!

Semper Fidelis!

[bigant]

bring in shannanhan and center it around j snead ,then again all four qbs are better then the dope we have now...

[irish]

It would be a huge mistake to change coaches. The Skins change coaches too much and there is no consistency. Zorn needs 2 more years to see if he can do the job.

Its still obvious JC will never be an elite QB. If he had a great O line and great WRs I think he could be a servicable QB but herew in DC he doesnt have those things. Its obvious Zorn has no confidence in him (based on how he called todays game) so I suspect the Skins will be looking for a new QB for 2010.

[irish]

Originally Posted by duetsch215

Zorn is a double threat as a terrible coach. 1. He is a terrible motivator. The Redskins were not confident whatsoever and if you cant get hyped about opening week against a division rival what game are you going to get hyped over. 2. He is an absolute terrible play caller. The first play from scrimmage, everyone blocked effectively and Portis ran for 34 yards. The very next play, He called a trick WR pass with Randle EL. This gave the momentum right back to the giants and the skins never seemed to recover from that.

Zorn is a bit too laid back IMO but I think if the players need him to get them motivated for opening week vs a divisional rival then its the players that have the problem. I really now believe that the core group of players are unmotivated losers who too easily accept defeat and make excuses for not executing. I know it can never be done but I really think the Skins need a total house cleaning of a large group of players.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

It would be a huge mistake to change coaches. The Skins change coaches too much and there is no consistency. Zorn needs 2 more years to see if he can do the job.

Its still obvious JC will never be an elite QB. If he had a great O line and great WRs I think he could be a servicable QB but herew in DC he doesnt have those things. Its obvious Zorn has no confidence in him (based on how he called todays game) so I suspect the Skins will be looking for a new QB for 2010.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Anyone who lays a lot of blame on JC for that loss clearly has made up their mind on him, regardless of what he does. Look, I never expect him to become Peyton, Brady, Brees, Warner, Rivers or any of the other top 5 QB but he'll be a top 12-15 guy in the range of Schaub, Eli, Cutler (yes Cutler), Hasselbeck. So I agree that he's never going to be elite, but who are you proposing we bring in to replace him that is elite? We know what we have in Collins and please don't start with the guy who barely held on to the 3rd string job before getting IR'd.

Zorn is out of his depth. He's going to look really good over the next few weeks in winning games that we should win but in games vs. the top teams and coaches, it's clear how over matched he is. The Giants suited up 3 CB yesterday. THREE! How are you not running them all over the field? Why are you running dive plays down 2 possessions on 2nd and 8? Why are you calling for a WR pass on the 2nd play from scrimmage? How do you not call at least one fade pattern with 1st and goal inside the 8? How do you call a WR screen on the 5!?!? Zorn lost my confidence in the preseason with how he handled the starters in the preseason games as if we were coming off of a Super Bowl run and both units were clicking on all cylinders. Yesterday reinforced my thoughts and doubts.