Do you expect Zorn to be fired

Beemnseven · 10-12-2009, 08:30 AM

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

Miller101 · 10-12-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

Come on dude. He's head and shoulders better than Zorn. He's been coaching offensive lines for over ten years. And been an assistant head coach for.....................6 years or so. Unlike Zorn, all of this has been at the pro level. And look what he did to the Steelers offensive line when he was there. He had those guys playing smash mouth ball better than anyone in the league. He goes to Arizona, who had a horrendous line, and turns them around into one of the better lines in the league. Warner got killed in St. Louis, but he has time to throw in Arizona. You know why? Because of Russ baby! Bring in Russ!

Beemnseven · 10-12-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Come on dude. He's head and shoulders better than Zorn. He's been coaching offensive lines for over ten years. And been an assistant head coach for.....................6 years or so. Unlike Zorn, all of this has been at the pro level. And look what he did to the Steelers offensive line when he was there. He had those guys playing smash mouth ball better than anyone in the league. He goes to Arizona, who had a horrendous line, and turns them around into one of the better lines in the league. Warner got killed in St. Louis, but he has time to throw in Arizona. You know why? Because of Russ baby! Bring in Russ!

How do you know this? He is just as unproven as a head coach as Jim Zorn was when he was hired. Those lines in Pittsburgh and Arizona weren't scouted, drafted and built by Grimm either.

tryfuhl · 10-12-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Come on dude. He's head and shoulders better than Zorn. He's been coaching offensive lines for over ten years. And been an assistant head coach for.....................6 years or so. Unlike Zorn, all of this has been at the pro level. And look what he did to the Steelers offensive line when he was there. He had those guys playing smash mouth ball better than anyone in the league. He goes to Arizona, who had a horrendous line, and turns them around into one of the better lines in the league. Warner got killed in St. Louis, but he has time to throw in Arizona. You know why? Because of Russ baby! Bring in Russ!

Made Big Ben the most sacked QB?

Warner had a horrible o-line too

not sure what you were watching

MTK · 10-12-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

I don't get it either. Plus he's had a few interviews for HC jobs where he was less than impressive, reportedly.

redsk1 · 10-12-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

I agree. Let's hire our coach based on merit not b/c he is an all time Skins great.

bmitch0030 · 10-12-2009, 08:59 AM

Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

hooskins · 10-12-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bmitch0030

Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

lol what

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-12-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bmitch0030

Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

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SmootSmack · 10-12-2009, 10:05 AM

Russ Grimm makes sense here if he has proven coordinators to support him. Otherwise, it really is a reach to just assume he will be successful as a head coach

BrunellMVP? · 10-12-2009, 10:17 AM

Zorn is clearly done.
He's damned if he wins (thanks to the consultant) and damned if he loses (there was nothing the consultant could do bc the team was just too far gone).

I think he's in way over his head. Everyone likes him as a person, but he seems lost.
he seems to get flustered/panicky on the sideline- which is symptomatic of someone who isn't ready to be a head coach.

"What happened on that, it was the fourth-down call, and we're waiting for them to spot the ball," Zorn said. "Well, the clock's running, and I'm looking, I'm trying to call a play, but I don't know where they're going to spot the ball. I don't know if it's gonna be 4th-and-5, 4th-and-2, 4th-and-7, what was it gonna be. And so all's I could do was call timeout."

Come on, the spread isn't 2-7 yards...everyone knows how close it was (roughly).

Zorn said after the game that he would seek further clarification, but his special teams coordinator, Danny Smith, didn't disagree with the officials' ruling. In fact, he said the Redskins' similarly practice shoving a blocker into the punt returner, and Fox confirmed that it was not an accidental play on Teal's part.

"Our guys are coached to do that," he said. "Anybody on special teams, our team, their team included. We understand that you can push a guy into the return team. It's a part of the game. You are able to block into them. That was an excellent play."
why the hell are we challenging if we know this?
danny smith seems like he's the smartest guy on the field. Zorn just doesn't get it

NCCU1984 · 10-12-2009, 11:24 AM

I know one thing, those 3 (2nd round picks) we used for receivers, should have been used on 3 quality Offensive linemen. That way our line would be better. You build a good team from the inside out, not the way we are doing it. We could have survived a few more years with Moss and ARE. Time for the other receiver to see the field. This offense does not even through past 15 yards. No wonder they cannot score more than 20 points.

hail_2_da_skins · 10-12-2009, 11:29 AM

Mutiny on FedEx Field!!!

I say make all of the culprits walk the plank! Feed them all to the sharks!

Start with management; Dan Snyder, Vinnie Cerratto, Jim Zorn, Greg Blache, Sherman Smith, Stan Hixon and then the players; Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Phillip Daniels, Cornelius Griffin, Stephon Heyer, Malcolm Kelly, LaRon Landry, Antwaan Randle El, Carlos Rogers, Chris Samuels, Mike Sellers, Fred Smoot, Devin Thomas, Mike Williams and Fred Davis.

Fire them all!

Trample the Elderly · 10-12-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Mutiny on FedEx Field!!!

I say make all of the culprits walk the plank! Feed them all to the sharks!

Start with management; Dan Snyder, Vinnie Cerratto, Jim Zorn, Greg Blache, Sherman Smith, Stan Hixon and then the players; Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Phillip Daniels, Cornelius Griffin, Stephon Heyer, Malcolm Kelly, LaRon Landry, Antwaan Randle El, Carlos Rogers, Chris Samuels, Mike Sellers, Fred Smoot, Devin Thomas, Mike Williams and Fred Davis.

Fire them all!

Welcome to the Mutiny. See chairman RuhSkins for your marching orders. Oh yeah, this is chaos. Just do what you feel.

JLee9718 · 10-12-2009, 11:34 AM

All those draft choices we gave up for players who aren't even with us now. Snyder wasn't crazy for hiring Zorn, but Zorn was crazy for taking the job. doesn't Snyder see that Vinny has caused multiple problems for this team? I agree that Vinny must go! What would the 'Skins do if they fired Zorn? He's already under the bus for players who don't even deserve to be in the NFL.

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10-12-2009, 08:30 AM	#1
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 52 Posts: 5,311	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another. It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

10-12-2009, 08:59 AM	#7
bmitch0030 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

10-12-2009, 10:05 AM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Russ Grimm makes sense here if he has proven coordinators to support him. Otherwise, it really is a reach to just assume he will be successful as a head coach __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-12-2009, 10:17 AM	#11
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Zorn is clearly done. He's damned if he wins (thanks to the consultant) and damned if he loses (there was nothing the consultant could do bc the team was just too far gone). I think he's in way over his head. Everyone likes him as a person, but he seems lost. he seems to get flustered/panicky on the sideline- which is symptomatic of someone who isn't ready to be a head coach. "What happened on that, it was the fourth-down call, and we're waiting for them to spot the ball," Zorn said. "Well, the clock's running, and I'm looking, I'm trying to call a play, but I don't know where they're going to spot the ball. I don't know if it's gonna be 4th-and-5, 4th-and-2, 4th-and-7, what was it gonna be. And so all's I could do was call timeout." Come on, the spread isn't 2-7 yards...everyone knows how close it was (roughly). Zorn said after the game that he would seek further clarification, but his special teams coordinator, Danny Smith, didn't disagree with the officials' ruling. In fact, he said the Redskins' similarly practice shoving a blocker into the punt returner, and Fox confirmed that it was not an accidental play on Teal's part. "Our guys are coached to do that," he said. "Anybody on special teams, our team, their team included. We understand that you can push a guy into the return team. It's a part of the game. You are able to block into them. That was an excellent play." why the hell are we challenging if we know this? danny smith seems like he's the smartest guy on the field. Zorn just doesn't get it __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-12-2009, 11:24 AM	#12
NCCU1984 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired I know one thing, those 3 (2nd round picks) we used for receivers, should have been used on 3 quality Offensive linemen. That way our line would be better. You build a good team from the inside out, not the way we are doing it. We could have survived a few more years with Moss and ARE. Time for the other receiver to see the field. This offense does not even through past 15 yards. No wonder they cannot score more than 20 points.

10-12-2009, 11:29 AM	#13
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 70 Posts: 868	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Mutiny on FedEx Field!!! I say make all of the culprits walk the plank! Feed them all to the sharks! Start with management; Dan Snyder, Vinnie Cerratto, Jim Zorn, Greg Blache, Sherman Smith, Stan Hixon and then the players; Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Phillip Daniels, Cornelius Griffin, Stephon Heyer, Malcolm Kelly, LaRon Landry, Antwaan Randle El, Carlos Rogers, Chris Samuels, Mike Sellers, Fred Smoot, Devin Thomas, Mike Williams and Fred Davis. Fire them all! __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

10-12-2009, 11:34 AM	#15
JLee9718 Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 573	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired All those draft choices we gave up for players who aren't even with us now. Snyder wasn't crazy for hiring Zorn, but Zorn was crazy for taking the job. doesn't Snyder see that Vinny has caused multiple problems for this team? I agree that Vinny must go! What would the 'Skins do if they fired Zorn? He's already under the bus for players who don't even deserve to be in the NFL.

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