Redskins Sign Grossman

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think what people keep forgetting is that drafting a QB with #4 is not right for the Redskins right now, plain and simple.

i hear what your saying ruhskins but theres a flip side to it: sitting at the no 4 spot, this draft may be our best bet at actually being in position to land a potential franchise qb.

honestly, im going to trust shanny and allen's evaluations of whats best for the team. all things equal thoo, id prefer a potential franchise qb over a potential franchise LT.

i forgot who coined this phrase of most important positions to a football team but it goes:

qb
guys who protect the qb
guys who rush the qb

[Audi]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

honestly, im going to trust shanny and allen's evaluations of whats best for the team. all things equal thoo, id prefer a potential franchise qb over a potential franchise LT.

My thoughts exactly.

The question should be are Jimmy Clausen and Sam Bradford potential franchise quarterbacks worth taking at #4. If the answer is yes, then you take them. If the answer is no, then you don't.

The question should not be whether you should take a QB or LT first. It should ALWAYS be the QB first.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i hear what your saying ruhskins but theres a flip side to it: sitting at the no 4 spot, this draft may be our best bet at actually being in position to land a potential franchise qb.

honestly, im going to trust shanny and allen's evaluations of whats best for the team. all things equal thoo, id prefer a potential franchise qb over a potential franchise LT.

i forgot who coined this phrase of most important positions to a football team but it goes:

qb
guys who protect the qb
guys who rush the qb

I'd be fine with taking a QB if we had JaMarcus Russell at QB last season, but we didn't. We can still pick up a damn good QB with the 2nd rounder, and let him learn for a year before he starts. I just hate for the team to once again go into the season with a suspect line and hoping that a bunch of older guys stay healthy. As I said, I know a first round LT is not going to fix the team right away, but you basically solidify the most important position in the offensive line for the next 9-10 years.

And as I said, I'm not sold on Bradford, everytime I hear the positives about him, I keep thinking 2.5 games played, twice injured shoulder. I'm sure he can be a very good QB, I just don't think he can be a good QB here nor do I want the team to gamble this high pick on him.

[Audi]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'd be fine with taking a QB if we had JaMarcus Russell at QB last season, but we didn't. We can still pick up a damn good QB with the 2nd rounder, and let him learn for a year before he starts.

The Vikings took Tarvaris Jackson in the 2nd round. The Jets took Kellen Clemens in the 2nd round.

Neither have amounted to much despite the offensive lines put in front of them.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Audi

The Vikings took Tarvaris Jackson in the 2nd round. The Jets took Kellen Clemens in the 2nd round.

Neither have amounted to much despite the offensive lines put in front of them.

Jackson looked good in preseason last year haha

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Audi

The Vikings took Tarvaris Jackson in the 2nd round. The Jets took Kellen Clemens in the 2nd round.

Neither have amounted to much despite the offensive lines put in front of them.

If you want to cite the Jets, they almost went to the Super Bowl with a horrible, turnover-prone, innaccurate, rookie QB who only had to throw a dozen passes a game (and still threw 20 picks). This was because of their line and despite of a bad QB.


More proof what a top o-line can do for a team.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Audi

The Vikings took Tarvaris Jackson in the 2nd round. The Jets took Kellen Clemens in the 2nd round.

Neither have amounted to much despite the offensive lines put in front of them.

And Drew Brees was also a second rounder. Draft position does not tell the individual player's skill abilities, it just represents how people viewed their likeliness to fail. Good 2nd round QBs probably come around the QB draft class is deep.

[Kalisto2010]

OMG, I must be in the twilight zone! Tell me I just didn't wake up to us signing Rex Grossman? Does this mean we're trading Campbell?

[johno]

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

OMG, I must be in the twilight zone! Tell me I just didn't wake up to us signing Rex Grossman? Does this mean we're trading Campbell?

thats one way of looking at it. that, or we are planning on keeping JC and use our pick on the offensive line. or that we simply needed a backup QB and now we have one that knows the new offensive scheme and is younger than Collins.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by johno

thats one way of looking at it. that, or we are planning on keeping JC and use our pick on the offensive line. or that we simply needed a backup QB and now we have one that knows the new offensive scheme and is younger than Collins.

yep.. us signing Grossman means that he's our starter just as much as CLE signing Delhomme

you could argue that delhomme has a better opportunity though I guess

[BigHairedAristocrat]

If we draft a QB in the first or 2nd round, i'd take whatever I could get for Campbell, since he really wouldnt have a place on the team. If we don't draft a QB, I wouldn't let Campbell go for anything less than a 2nd. he'd simply be too valuable to us.

[SmootSmack]

We're taking a QB for sure. And we have to add in some real value to get a 2nd in return for Campbell

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We're taking a QB for sure. And we have to add in some real value to get a 2nd in return for Campbell

guessing real value depends on which team is asking

are we talking the guys that you mention.. rocky, moss, etc

or are we talking bigger?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We're taking a QB for sure. And we have to add in some real value to get a 2nd in return for Campbell

I would like to see us take Okung, but I think we're betting on someone else of similar potential at tackle to be there later in the draft and take a stab at Bradford or Clausen.

As I stated in another thread, I favor Clausen over Bradford.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We're taking a QB for sure. And we have to add in some real value to get a 2nd in return for Campbell

Not so sure about that. JC, Rex and Colt could be our opening day lineup at QB...........makes me cringe......