At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I did have Denver taking Clausen at No. 11, and they still might take him. But the premise of this thread looked at the Quinn trade and thought, man, after Denver there is a shortage of demand for a Quarterback.

The Evan Sliva/PFT Mock Draft had Clausen dropping to the Vikings at No. 30. Without a Mock that allows trades, it's impossible to gauge how much a player will fall. I actually am quite confident that Arizona plans on drafting Clausen if he is available when they pick. But then again, Minnesota could go up to get him thinking that Arizona will take him, and Arizona might get antsy in anticipation of someone trading up and go up to stop his fall. And I think Dallas is a darkhorse candidate to get involved in a first round quarterback.

So it's impossible for me to gauge Clausen's true value without offering some sort of trade hypothetical. I do think the team that drafts him will trade for the pick to draft him. Houston, New England, and Cincinnati, right in that 20/22 range, could get lucky if Clausen gets out of the top ten and slides.

I don't think he's getting out of the first round or anything, but this is a year where a projectable QB could fall because of the market/perceived gap between Bradford.

I don't think he gets past the Bills at 9. Also, remember Pete Carroll recruited him out of HS and lost to Weis.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I don't think he gets past the Bills at 9. Also, remember Pete Carroll recruited him out of HS and lost to Weis.

I'm not sure the Bills are even considering a QB. I think they want to go the vet route. Clausen would be a disaster there, anyway, as they cannot protect the quarterback.

According to SS, Clausen would love to play for Carroll, but I've got to say: if money talks, Whitehurst isn't there to backup someone.

I can't rule out Oakland because you can never rule out Oakland. And I wouldn't sleep on Jacksonville. And there's Kansas City, who is obviously not married to Cassel. And we're so tight to the vest right now that I have no idea if we've stopped considering him or have decided to take him (or anywhere in between). But if he gets to Denver and they don't take him, then commence free-fall.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not sure the Bills are even considering a QB. I think they want to go the vet route. Clausen would be a disaster there, anyway, as they cannot protect the quarterback.

According to SS, Clausen would love to play for Carroll, but I've got to say: if money talks, Whitehurst isn't there to backup someone.

I can't rule out Oakland because you can never rule out Oakland. And I wouldn't sleep on Jacksonville. And there's Kansas City, who is obviously not married to Cassel. And we're so tight to the vest right now that I have no idea if we've stopped considering him or have decided to take him (or anywhere in between). But if he gets to Denver and they don't take him, then commence free-fall.

I said Clausen would love to play for Carroll? I think others have said that. All I've said, I believe, is that Clausen seems to think (though this was before Whitehurst) he could land in Seattle and would love to stay on the West Coast. Though he has also said he spent some time in DC recently and could definitely see himself in a Redskins uniform.

Wouldn't rule out Bills, Raiders, and Jags for JC. Though I still don't expect anything to happen before draft weekend.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

why is the draft so stinking far away from now?

[flaskinsfan8]

Before the skins go after any QBs in a draft I would like to see them give the last one they drafted a chance. I think Brennan could be decent, and hey can't get much worse than 4-12.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by flaskinsfan8

Before the skins go after any QBs in a draft I would like to see them give the last one they drafted a chance. I think Brennan could be decent, and hey can't get much worse than 4-12.

Brennan had two years of a chance and was outplayed by a 5'10" UDFA last pre-season. Watch as Timmy Cha.....oops, Colt Brennan plays himself off the roster this pre-season.

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Brennan had two years of a chance and was outplayed by a 5'10" UDFA last pre-season. Watch as Timmy Cha.....oops, Colt Brennan plays himself off the roster this pre-season.

To be fair i believe that UDFA outplayed the starter as well but hey, that's just me.

As far as the threads actual subject goes. There is no one that I would trade up for this year period. There really isn't anyone that I want at 4 but if you can't trade down take who you think is going to be most benificial to your team long term.

[RMSkins]

I wouldn't feel comfortable using any of our draft picks on Clausen, let alone trading up for him. I don't feel like any of the QBs in this draft class will end up being a franchise QB, Bradford might be the exception, but I still don't feel like any of the Quarterbacks coming out this year will be an upgrade over Jason Campbell, which is saying something.

[hooskins]

I am late to this thread but never.

[#56fanatic]

I wouldn't trade anyway to move up to get him. I just dont think he is that good of a QB. I watched him several times and just didn't see the NFL QB that Kiper sees. i see him squeezing balls in against college competition, those windows are twice as small in the NFL. I see those being pick sixes. He is a guy that goes out if he struggles and misses some passes early, then forget it he is done the rest of the game. I just dont see it..plus i dont think his arm strength is all that great for the NFL. I take another QB in the 2nd. Pike comes to mind from Cincy, LeFever may be another option, McCoy may be there too. I just dont like Clausen AT ALL if you can't tell.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I wouldn't trade anyway to move up to get him. I just dont think he is that good of a QB. I watched him several times and just didn't see the NFL QB that Kiper sees. i see him squeezing balls in against college competition, those windows are twice as small in the NFL. I see those being pick sixes. He is a guy that goes out if he struggles and misses some passes early, then forget it he is done the rest of the game. I just dont see it..plus i dont think his arm strength is all that great for the NFL. I take another QB in the 2nd. Pike comes to mind from Cincy, LeFever may be another option, McCoy may be there too. I just dont like Clausen AT ALL if you can't tell.

I'd trade out of the draft to avoid taking Pike or Lefevour

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd trade out of the draft to avoid taking Pike or Lefevour

Has there been any indication of the Skins being interested in LeFevour?

I wouldn't mind him in the 3rd, too bad we don't have one of course.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I wouldn't trade anyway to move up to get him. I just dont think he is that good of a QB. I watched him several times and just didn't see the NFL QB that Kiper sees. i see him squeezing balls in against college competition, those windows are twice as small in the NFL. I see those being pick sixes. He is a guy that goes out if he struggles and misses some passes early, then forget it he is done the rest of the game. I just dont see it..plus i dont think his arm strength is all that great for the NFL. I take another QB in the 2nd. Pike comes to mind from Cincy, LeFever may be another option, McCoy may be there too. I just dont like Clausen AT ALL if you can't tell.

Pike, LeFevour, McCoy in the 2nd???? And you're knocking Clausen?

[53Fan]

There's really only one QB worth taking in the first round this year IMO and that's Bradford.

[SmootSmack]

I haven't heard of any interest