WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

[Chico23231]

WOW, guess this was a story after all...unfortunately. Well my gut instinct was right, Phat Albert is an overpaid, piece of sh*t..... who never deserve to wear the Redskins uniform. The Curse of Vinny bits us again.

We have to get value, a starting Tackle would be ideal or combo of drafts picks which includes at least a 2nd rounder. We MUST get value or just fine his worthless ass every f*ckin day....

I knew this was another bad free agent signing, thank god Danny Boy and Vinny are not running the show anymore

[ethat001]

Sorry to possibly rehash - but I didn't see this clearly by skimming the posts above:

How much exactly does Haynesworth lose if he doesn't show up to camp? And does anyone know if there's language in the contract to have him repay bonuses or net pay if he continues to refuse to play?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Sorry to possibly rehash - but I didn't see this clearly by skimming the posts above:

How much exactly does Haynesworth lose if he doesn't show up to camp? And does anyone know if there's language in the contract to have him repay bonuses or net pay if he continues to refuse to play?

I've heard anywhere between 10 to 16K a day, which is nothing sadly. However, if he continues to hold out until the season starts, the team could go after his guaranteed money I believe. Most players, typically don't hold out into the regular season. While, I would be ok with the team to cut their losses and trade this guy, letting him hold out means the team can fine him.

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Allen should just trade AH to another team that runs the 3-4 just to piss him off.

Trade him to the Bills!!

[jdlea]

Ya know, I was never a huge fan of the Hayneswoth signing, but I wasn't particularly disappointed with his play last season. He definitely helped improve the effectiveness of the D Line last season, but I still never really liked the signing. I support the guys on the field regardless though, and I wasn't disappointed in his play at all.

That said, I think he would have been somewhat of a waste in the 3-4 anyway. He could have probably been a dominant DE, but he'd have been totally useless as a NT being paid $100 mil.

I say deal this guy for a 2nd round pick and try to forget he ever happened. If possible, I'd like to trade the F'er to a team who runs the 3-4, I think that would be hilarious.

I will say, though, that I can kinda understand where he's coming from. He signed with this team thinking that he'd be able to do what he did in Tennessee, but that opportunity has been taken away kinda. Not that he would know, since he hasn't participated in anything, but moving to the 3-4 would have definitely made him less important, so I can see where he'd be miffed over the switch, also, I can see where he's coming from in saying that he wouldn't have signed here if we were running the 3-4 then. I think that argument's fair.

Bottom line, I think he's a douche, but I'm not that mad at him. I already knew he was a douche and didn't think they should sign him. On top of that, I thought it was a mistake to sign him to that ridiculous contract, sorry to say it, but the Skins are kind of getting what they deserve for investing in this guy. Get rid of him and try to put the Cerrato era behind us, now that you look at the AH situation he kinda seems like a microcosm of that whole damn period. Just trade him and move on, please.

[Bakerman]

This is Shanny's first big test here. I think AH will find out who's in charge.

HTTR!

[Monkeydad]

Haynesworth for Mankins and picks.

If he wants traded, make him pay back part or all of his signing bonus before granting his wish.


If he won't, start fining him every day he misses.

[over the mountain]

ive said it before, ill say it again.

AH is all about the money, The man is a mercenary.

He and his agent came here in hopes of collecting 32 million over 13 months, then try to force a trade so that he can get a new, more traditional "pay as you play" contract.

Its all about money.

The remainder of his contract with the skins is nominal at 4 to 6 mill a year for the next 3 years.

Did anyone honestly think AH would play for 4-6 mil during his prime years?
Did you think he would honor the fact that he got paid 21 mil in april?

It is and always has been about money.

He and his agent thought he got get a windfall for 1 year of work then sign a new contract with a new team.

I know that after last season, bruce and AH placed an option in AH's contract that, after this year, he could opt out of the contract and become a FA if he paid back something around 18.3 mil of the 21 mil he was paid.

If AH is unhappy about the scheme and not the money, he can opt out next year and be a free agent. Of course, he would have to give up all that money and admit defeat of his plan to get paid then pull a fast one out of town.

Has anyone posted what fines the skins can leverage against AH for every day he misses mandatories? I know it was in an article within the past week.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

ive said it before, ill say it again.

AH is all about the money, The man is a mercenary.

He and his agent came here in hopes of collecting 32 million over 13 months, then try to force a trade so that he can get a new, more traditional "pay as you play" contract.

Its all about money.

The remainder of his contract with the skins is nominal at 4 to 6 mill a year for the next 3 years.

Did anyone honestly think AH would play for 4-6 mil during his prime years?
Did you think he would honor the fact that he got paid 21 mil in april?

It is and always has been about money.

He and his agent thought he got get a windfall for 1 year of work then sign a new contract with a new team.

I know that after last season, bruce and AH placed an option in AH's contract that, after this year, he could opt out of the contract and become a FA if he paid back something around 18.3 mil of the 21 mil he was paid.

If AH is unhappy about the scheme and not the money, he can opt out next year and be a free agent. Of course, he would have to give up all that money and admit defeat of his plan to get paid then pull a fast one out of town.

Has anyone posted what fines the skins can leverage against AH for every day he misses mandatories? I know it was in an article within the past week.

I agree with your overall sentiment that Haynesworth is primarily concerned with money, but that theory is just preposterous. Do you really think AH would be holding out if we were running a 4-3 and he was being used in the way he wanted to be used? Do you really think the plan from the start was to come here, collect a ton of money up front and then force a trade the very next year? That's pretty far-fetched and there are no official reports, legitimate sources, questionable sources, or even rumors alleging that this was the master plan all along. Its a conspiracy theory with absolutely no supporting evidence... at best (or worst?)

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

1) Do you really think AH would be holding out if we were running a 4-3 and he was being used in the way he wanted to be used?

2) Do you really think the plan from the start was to come here, collect a ton of money up front and then force a trade the very next year?

That's pretty far-fetched and there are no official reports, legitimate sources, questionable sources, or even rumors alleging that this was the master plan all along. Its a conspiracy theory with absolutely no supporting evidence... at best (or worst?)

1) Yes, i do believe that if there was no coaching change and no D scheme change, he would proffer another excuse for being unhappy. He and his agent had to know that zorn was not going to be the coach after last season. He and his agent had to know that blache was old and had to be brided out of retirement by gibbs, then begged to stay on when gibbs left.

Everyone knew zorn and blache were coaching their last year. AH knew it.

2) Yes. The skins made an unprecedented contract offer that opened the window for AH to collect an unprecendented 32 mil for 13 months of work.

What scenario would make AH the most money when he was a FA last year:

he turned down more money (in a traditional pay as you play contract) with the bucs b/c why? the skins and blache were so damn attractive to him? no. it was the freakin 32 mil dangled in front of him for 13 months of work.

I feel like my conspiracy theory is right. Has been all along. Is so far fetched that a player like AH (who loves money and not football, had big time debts) would try to take 32 mil that was stupidly put in front of him with no incentive for him to play after the 13 months.

The writing has been on the wall.

Ask yourself what scenario would get AH the most money last year.
Answer: take the skins 32 million, after the april 21 mil check clears, get a trade and sign a new, traditional pay as you play contract.

BHA - do you honestly think AH had any intention of playing for the skins in 2010 for 4-5 mil, in 2011 for 4-5 mil and 2012 for 5-6 mil? He is 28, he is in his prime years. No way AH ever had any intention of playing the next 3 years of his prime for 4-6 mil. No freakin way. to think otherwise is really giving too much credit to the integrity of AH.

[sandtrapjack]

Allen should just trade AH to another team that runs the 3-4 just to piss him off.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Allen should just trade AH to another team that runs the 3-4 just to piss him off.

Patriots run a 3-4...have a player that is also demanding a trade (Mankins).


Unfortunately, they just made Wilfork the 2nd-highest paid D-lineman behind Haynesworth in March.

Wilfork at NT and Haynesworth at DE could be scary though, but I think Wilfork's big contract would keep that deal from happening.

[scowan]

Trade him to some team going nowhere that looses a lot like the Raiders or the Lions.

[KI Skins Fan]

I would be very happy if the Skins could work out a deal with New Orleans to trade AH for Jammal Brown.

Adding Brown at OT would really help our OL and make McNabb that much more effective.

Under the circumstances, I think that would be a good trade for us. It would probably be a good trade for N.O., as well. With Bushrod, the Saints could probably get by fine without Brown and I think it's obvious now that, one way or another, AH is done in D.C.

[over the mountain]

Albert Haynesworth Could Be Fined $10,000 For Missing Minicamp - SB Nation DC

For now, the Redskins can fine him roughly $10,000 for skipping the minicamp. If he stays out when training camp rolls around, the number increases to more than $16,000 per day. They also likely will be able to pursue a portion of his signing bonus.

National Football Post: Albert Haynesworth Should Be Fined Until He Returns To Work - SB Nation DC

[CultBrennan59]

We should just trade him to New Orleans for Jammal brown and put Trent over on the right side.



...and I bought this guys jersey over orakpo's....