Big Al suspended for the remainder of season

[12thMan]

This was a pissing contest from the jump. But more than anything, this drama, highlights Shanny's inability to manage an NFL team and high profile athletes in particular.

For all the talk of change, this team is wose off defesively, only 2 points per game better offensively, and appears to be poorly coached of late. Shanahan mishandled the Jason Campbell trade, he mishandled MacNabb, bungled "Derrick" Thomas, and the Haynesworth saga is well documented and will dog this coach for a long time, in my opinion.

Bottom line, Haynesworth wasn't paid a $100 million to play nosetackle. This guy was brought here to wreak havoc, and to that end Shanahan failed to get the most out of Dan Snyder's purchase.

I have zero confidence that Mike Shanahan will be a successful coach here.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This was a pissing contest from the jump. But more than anything, this drama, highlights Shanny's inability to manage an NFL team and high profile athletes in particular.

For all the talk of change, this team is wose off defesively, only 2 points per game better offensively, appears to be poorly coached of late. Shanahan mishandled the Jason Campbell trade, he mishandled MacNabb, bungled "Derrick" Thomas, and the Haynesworth saga is well documented and will dog this coach for a long time, in my opinion.

Bottom line, Haynesworth wasn't paid a $100 mil to play nosetackle. This guy was brought here to wreak havoc, and to that end Shanahan failed to get the most out of Dan Snyder's purchase.

I have zero confidence that Mike Shanahan will be a successful coach here.

Mishandled is putting it mildly.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This was a pissing contest from the jump. But more than anything, this drama, highlights Shanny's inability to manage an NFL team and high profile athletes in particular.

For all the talk of change, this team is wose off defesively, only 2 points per game better offensively, and appears to be poorly coached of late. Shanahan mishandled the Jason Campbell trade, he mishandled MacNabb, bungled "Derrick" Thomas, and the Haynesworth saga is well documented and will dog this coach for a long time, in my opinion.

Bottom line, Haynesworth wasn't paid a $100 million to play nosetackle. This guy was brought here to wreak havoc, and to that end Shanahan failed to get the most out of Dan Snyder's purchase.

I have zero confidence that Mike Shanahan will be a successful coach here.

Interesting. How long do you think it'll be (or what do you think it'll take for) until Snyder pulls the plug?

[44 70 chip]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This was a pissing contest from the jump. But more than anything, this drama, highlights Shanny's inability to manage an NFL team and high profile athletes in particular.

For all the talk of change, this team is wose off defesively, only 2 points per game better offensively, and appears to be poorly coached of late. Shanahan mishandled the Jason Campbell trade, he mishandled MacNabb, bungled "Derrick" Thomas, and the Haynesworth saga is well documented and will dog this coach for a long time, in my opinion.

Hi, your premis is that coddling and babying big name players leads to success (in a team sport where everyone has to work together), and your support for this conclusion is that the Redskins defense is bad right now...

Wow...

MS is in his first year, in a system that has suffered from 11 years of colossal Snyder brand "fantasy football" mismanagement.

He inherited an O-line devoid of a single worthy starter, a RB core that was/is used up, A WR core that suffers from Snyderrato picks, a D-line that that is suited to a 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4... LB's suited to the 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4, a terrible secondary... And then he had Dan Snyder pushing Donovan McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on him (Think about it for a minute before you scoff, when did Shanahan ever go after older running backs or veteran QB's via trade? He's always drafted them and pulled RB's out of no where, he may have signed off on them, but they still smell like every Dan Snyder fantasy football move pre Shanny).

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 44 70 chip

Hi, your premis is that coddling and babying big name players leads to success (in a team sport where everyone has to work together), and your support for this conclusion is that the Redskins defense is bad right now...

Wow...

MS is in his first year, in a system that has suffered from 11 years of colossal Snyder brand "fantasy football" mismanagement.

He inherited an O-line devoid of a single worthy starter, a RB core that was/is used up, A WR core that suffers from Snyderrato picks, a D-line that that is suited to a 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4... LB's suited to the 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4, a terrible secondary... And then he had Dan Snyder pushing Donovan McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on him (Think about it for a minute before you scoff, when did Shanahan ever go after older running backs or veteran QB's via trade? He's always drafted them and pulled RB's out of no where, he may have signed off on them, but they still smell like every Dan Snyder fantasy football move pre Shanny).

Agree with 99% of this...

However, Shanahan did go after Jake Plummer while in Denver - - and Plummer was hardly a wet-behind-the-ears rookie at the time. Since you asked...

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Agree with 99% of this...

However, Shanahan did go after Jake Plummer while in Denver - - and Plummer was hardly a wet-behind-the-ears rookie at the time. Since you asked...

And the whole Browns D line (Gerard Warren, Courtney Brown, Ebenezer Ekuban and Michael Myers).

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by 44 70 chip

Hi, your premis is that coddling and babying big name players leads to success (in a team sport where everyone has to work together), and your support for this conclusion is that the Redskins defense is bad right now...

Wow...

MS is in his first year, in a system that has suffered from 11 years of colossal Snyder brand "fantasy football" mismanagement.

He inherited an O-line devoid of a single worthy starter, a RB core that was/is used up, A WR core that suffers from Snyderrato picks, a D-line that that is suited to a 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4... LB's suited to the 4-3 when he wants to run a 3-4, a terrible secondary... And then he had Dan Snyder pushing Donovan McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on him (Think about it for a minute before you scoff, when did Shanahan ever go after older running backs or veteran QB's via trade? He's always drafted them and pulled RB's out of no where, he may have signed off on them, but they still smell like every Dan Snyder fantasy football move pre Shanny).

I can sign off on about 60% of this. I don't think McNabb, Parker and Johnson were Snyder moves. I wouldn't call our secondary (when healthy) terrible by any stretch.

I agree with the history of the past 11 years of mismanagement but in doing so you have to realize its going to take at least 2 full offseasons and by full I mean TRUE free agency plus drafts to change the roster to his vision. 2012 will probably be 'his' team, meaning a franchise QB, his style of RB, reliable WR and a strong OL. Right now we have none of these. This offseason we led the league in turnover but most of them were short term stopgap type deals. Even McNabb's deal means he won't be here past 2011. Its way too early to call the paint dry on Shanny's picture of this team.

[47FAN]

finally gone(at least for the next four games and possibly more)................this guy has caused to many distractions and im sure this offseason there will be more to come

[SmootSmack]

Devin Thomas blocks a punt and suddenly we blew that? You know who else blocked a punt? Taylor Jacobs. DT may be, and should be, good one day. But it wasn't happening here. He needed a kick in the pants (two it seems as he couldn't even last with Carolina) and maybe, just maybe, he'll live up to the hype he had coming out of college.

I don't know what he did to mishandle the Campbell trade? Campbell had basically zero value, a combination of his poor play and Vinny openly shopping him since November of 2008.

Agree about how he handled McNabb.

Bottom line, AH was brought here to play football. It's not like we were asking him to play TE. And he would have played many positions along the line, yet he was too focused on doing things his own way to listen to a head coach with 3 Super Bowl rings.

Biggest thing is Shanahan has the support of the players here. They were tired of it. Heard from one who said "No one could get ever through to Haynesworth, he didn't care about the team and we could never count on him."and another who said "He's been a problem since last year. Remember Christmas? We didn't want to be bothered with him anymore"

They both said they liked him as a person and wished he would see all the talent he was wasting, but as teammates they wanted him out of there

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Devin Thomas blocks a punt and suddenly we blew that? You know who else blocked a punt? Taylor Jacobs. DT may be, and should be, good one day. But it wasn't happening here. He needed a kick in the pants (two it seems as he couldn't even last with Carolina) and maybe, just maybe, he'll live up to the hype he had coming out of college.

I don't know what he did to mishandle the Campbell trade? Campbell had basically zero value, a combination of his poor play and Vinny openly shopping him since November of 2008.

Agree about how he handled McNabb.

Bottom line, AH was brought here to play football. It's not like we were asking him to play TE. And he would have played many positions along the line, yet he was too focused on doing things his own way to listen to a head coach with 3 Super Bowl rings.

Biggest thing is Shanahan has the support of the players here. They were tired of it. Heard from one who said "No one could get ever through to Haynesworth, he didn't care about the team and we could never count on him."and another who said "He's been a problem since last year. Remember Christmas? We didn't want to be bothered with him anymore"

They both said they liked him as a person and wished he would see all the talent he was wasting, but as teammates they wanted him out of there

quoted for truth

[CrustyRedskin]

AH is a worthless POS and nobody make me think any different.

[44ever]

Shanahan: Albert Haynesworth to play any position Redskins ask him | ProFootballTalk
Flipadelphia says:
Jul 19, 2010 11:46 AM
"Fat Al is gonna tear that team apart. He will do his best to make sure they dont win this year and that he is released after or during the season.
Expect alot of grumbling, sitting on the bench alone and phantom injuries out of that guy"

^^^Whoever this guy is, he hit the nail right on, all the way back in July. In fact many fans of other teams said the same thing. Seems we were the only ones blinded once again by a "Big name" signing, well most of us.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Shanahan: Albert Haynesworth to play any position Redskins ask him | ProFootballTalk
Flipadelphia says:
Jul 19, 2010 11:46 AM
"Fat Al is gonna tear that team apart. He will do his best to make sure they dont win this year and that he is released after or during the season.
Expect alot of grumbling, sitting on the bench alone and phantom injuries out of that guy"

^^^Whoever this guy is, he hit the nail right on, all the way back in July. In fact many fans of other teams said the same thing. Seems we were the only ones blinded once again by a "Big name" signing, well most of us.

Well when you have thousands of post on a subject someone at some point is going to guess correctly but he did hit it right.

[souperbad]

I often thought it would be more realistic if, instead of naming the sections of Fed Ex Field for famous Redskins, they named the sections of Fed Ex Field after the people the seats were actually paying for. You know, you would have the

The Albert Haynesworth Club Level
The Adam Archuletta Loge

...something like that

[SirClintonPortis]

He deserved it, plain and simple.