Updated Title: World Revolution 2011

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Wouldn't that be considered nation building?

No, it's called genocide prevention.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Wouldn't that be considered nation building?

How is that nation building? Not even close.

What we're doing in Afghanistan is nation building.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

How is that nation building? Not even close.

What we're doing in Afghanistan is nation building.

Well if we are fighting back the leaders so others who support someone else can take over I'd say thats nation building. Interfering in any way is really nation building. I did not say if it was right or wrong.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if we are fighting back the leaders so others who support someone else can take over I'd say thats nation building. Interfering in any way is really nation building. I did not say if it was right or wrong.

Well nation buidling, to simplify it a bit, is when the U.S. commits considerable assets to rebuiling a nation's infrastructure, it's government, and there's a long-term military occupation and strategy in place.

The goal is to promote and spread democracy in said region and help it become politically and economically stable. It's what we did in Iraq and it's what we're sort of doing in Afghanistan, though the White House won't say so.

The situation in Libya is completely different on so many levels, namely we aren't at war with Libya and Libya poses no real threat to U.S. borders. This is turning into an international human rights crisis that has a significant economic impact on the price of oil. At least short term.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

We just froze $30 Billion in Libyan assets. I think we're sending a couple of ships over there as we speak, which means we might try to impose a no fly zone.

Other than that, Gaddafi is insane and will hopefully be gone very, very soon.

Yeah he is

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[SmootSmack]

You guys ever find yourself out and suddenly you really need to find a restroom? So you go to the nearest restaurant and there's a sign that says "Restrooms for Customers Only"

So then you're like, well damn what do I do. Do I just move on and try to find the next place, or do I buy some fries for a dollar and then use the bathroom?

So I'm not saying the Parking Lot is a bathroom but this is a Redskins fan site, first and foremost. The Locker Room is where we serve our meals and the reason people are joining, to consume Redskins info. Someone who only posts in the Parking Lot, and never actually talks about the Redskins-on a Redskins fan site...it's kind of like walking into our restaurant just to use our bathroom.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys ever find yourself out and suddenly you really need to find a restroom? So you go to the nearest restaurant and there's a sign that says "Restrooms for Customers Only"

So then you're like, well damn what do I do. Do I just move on and try to find the next place, or do I buy some fries for a dollar and then use the bathroom?

So I'm not saying the Parking Lot is a bathroom but this is a Redskins fan site, first and foremost. The Locker Room is where we serve our meals and the reason people are joining, to consume Redskins info. Someone who only posts in the Parking Lot, and never actually talks about the Redskins-on a Redskins fan site...it's kind of like walking into our restaurant just to use our bathroom.

Funny you say that. I come to the site read a few Redskin Post and maybe make a few post then come here because I get tired of reading the same thing over and over again. Yea, I know.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys ever find yourself out and suddenly you really need to find a restroom? So you go to the nearest restaurant and there's a sign that says "Restrooms for Customers Only"

So then you're like, well damn what do I do. Do I just move on and try to find the next place, or do I buy some fries for a dollar and then use the bathroom?

So I'm not saying the Parking Lot is a bathroom but this is a Redskins fan site, first and foremost. The Locker Room is where we serve our meals and the reason people are joining, to consume Redskins info. Someone who only posts in the Parking Lot, and never actually talks about the Redskins-on a Redskins fan site...it's kind of like walking into our restaurant just to use our bathroom.

So given this scenerio, are they're certain people that flush and one's that don't? And who's good at lifting the lid is what I really want to know.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You guys ever find yourself out and suddenly you really need to find a restroom? So you go to the nearest restaurant and there's a sign that says "Restrooms for Customers Only"

So then you're like, well damn what do I do. Do I just move on and try to find the next place, or do I buy some fries for a dollar and then use the bathroom?

So I'm not saying the Parking Lot is a bathroom but this is a Redskins fan site, first and foremost. The Locker Room is where we serve our meals and the reason people are joining, to consume Redskins info. Someone who only posts in the Parking Lot, and never actually talks about the Redskins-on a Redskins fan site...it's kind of like walking into our restaurant just to use our bathroom.

Its more like going to the local carnival because you saw the roller coaster you love to ride and getting side tracked by the freak shows. LOL

[SmootSmack]

No one here is talking about Libya?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No one here is talking about Libya?

Of course not, you know that every political thread has to be about the left vs. the right.

Plus nothing is going on in Libya, right? Oh wait, there's this little thing about international forces attacking Gaddhafi. LOL.

On a serious note, I was fearing that the international forces would act a little too late, but that may not be the case. I hope the opposition is able to organize themselves and be able to take advantage of this help from the UN.

[Lotus]

Qaddafy should have been out a couple of weeks ago. Now that the international community is involved, I strongly recommend that he get his bags packed and sign a lease on a villa in Argentina.

Maybe T.O. will cry, "he's my dictator" (sniff sniff).

[12thMan]

What happened?

We were pretty much left with no choice. But I do support Obama's method of getting a broad coalition to carry out this intervention. Pretty interesting watching the Obama doctrine unfold before our eyes.

What's more interesting is that Libya supplies about 3% of the world's oil supply and only a fraction coming to the U.S. So our vital interests are nill.

[BuckSkin]

Next question, who will take over from the French once the Gadaffi forces start shooting back?

[GMScud]

In all honesty, I think Obama is doing the right thing here, on a few levels.

First off, we're already heavily involved in two ongoing, drawn out wars in the muslim world with Afghanistan and Iraq. We need to bring closure to both very soon.

Secondly, the American public is very weary of any further involvement in war of any kind given the past 8+ years. It would be bad for national morale, Obama's re-election plans, and the US military to take the lead in yet another muslim-related skirmish. Action needed to be taken in Libya, but it's smart to only be a player in a supportive role on this one given the current circumstances.

All that said, it will be interesting to see how much say we have in Ghaddafi's fate. Do we take the lead on his disposal/replacement despite not having the lead in his takedown?