Redskins Receivers Rotation

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yes it would, although I would hope that in the land where everything goes right for us, Armstrong would get the first shot at the third receiver over Moss. It might even make sense then to do some 4 WR stuff with a tight end in the backfield instead of a RB.

I think it would make sense. Lots of receiving options with some protection.

[NYCskinfan82]

Watch out for Aldrick Robinson - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins


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[skinsfan69]

A little disappointing that Gafney is #2. That to me is just awful.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A little disappointing that Gafney is #2. That to me is just awful.

I would fully expect Gafney to be #2 when the season starts. He's a solid vet, nothing spectacular but can make the catches to move the chains. After he & Moss, Stallworth & Armstrong are the two guys that I think will push for the starting spot. REally don't know what kind of wr Stallworth is at this point. Used to be a burner, but he's older & w/a long history of injuries.

Would love to see Hankerson grab it right off but it sounds like his dropping habit will keep him back.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A little disappointing that Gafney is #2. That to me is just awful.

Disappointing? So you'd rather trade for a guy who can't contribute? Look at Gaffney's stats for the past 3 years, he's a solid contributor and has been the #2 for Denver with Royal and Marshall's regular absences from the field.

Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson

much better than

Moss, Armstrong, Galloway, Roydell Williams (2010)

and also better than

Moss, Randel El, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly (2009)


Heck, I'd take it over Coles, Gardner, Thrash and Taylor Jacobs too.



This is the best WR group we've had since the Posse. Beyond those first four are solid depth possibilities with Austin, Banks, Paul, Robinson, Stallworth, Kelly...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Disappointing? So you'd rather trade for a guy who can't contribute? Look at Gaffney's stats for the past 3 years, he's a solid contributor and has been the #2 for Denver with Royal and Marshall's regular absences from the field.

Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson

much better than

Moss, Armstrong, Galloway, Roydell Williams (2010)

and also better than

Moss, Randel El, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly (2009)


Heck, I'd take it over Coles, Gardner, Thrash and Taylor Jacobs too.



This is the best WR group we've had since the Posse. Beyond those first four are solid depth possibilities with Austin, Banks, Paul, Robinson, Stallworth, Kelly...

I'd rather the young guys play, get experience and let them grow. We're not going anywhere this year so why slow the development of young players? Why draft Austin if you're not going to give the guy a chance? And this is not the best wr's since the Posse. No way.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd rather the young guys play, get experience and let them grow. We're not going anywhere this year so why slow the development of young players? Why draft Austin if you're not going to give the guy a chance? And this is not the best wr's since the Posse. No way.

This is the worse logic ive ever heard. I'm sick of hearing about this.. "Letting the young guys develop"

They are going to develop by just being at the game, playing Special Teams, and earning the starting job. Shanahan has already proven that the hardest working, and best will play before the rest. So if Jabar is playing and looking better then the younger guys, then he should play. He's under contract as well. We are here to win football games, and if Jabar gives us the best chance of winning, then i'm all for him starting.

This is not a Madden video game where you think your going to draft 7 players in the draft and play them all in the top of the depth chart. The NFL is about putting the pieces together and winning, and to continue winning. Vets, Rookies, and Journeyman alike.. In all of football, how many teams ahve you seen in the NFL start more then 3-4 rookies? Yeah, there are teams with YOUNGER rosters, but since the Redskins took the FA team approach for so many years we have a ways to go, but why cant we just WIN NOW!? I'm tired of hearing this "Let's continue to build, and develop stuff"

If I was London Fletcher, or Santana Moss and heard you guys saying stuff like this, I would slap you in your cheek like those old duelers did.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bucket

This is the worse logic ive ever heard. I'm sick of hearing about this.. "Letting the young guys develop"

They are going to develop by just being at the game, playing Special Teams, and earning the starting job. Shanahan has already proven that the hardest working, and best will play before the rest. So if Jabar is playing and looking better then the younger guys, then he should play. He's under contract as well. We are here to win football games, and if Jabar gives us the best chance of winning, then i'm all for him starting.

This is not a Madden video game where you think your going to draft 7 players in the draft and play them all in the top of the depth chart. The NFL is about putting the pieces together and winning, and to continue winning. Vets, Rookies, and Journeyman alike.. In all of football, how many teams ahve you seen in the NFL start more then 3-4 rookies? Yeah, there are teams with YOUNGER rosters, but since the Redskins took the FA team approach for so many years we have a ways to go, but why cant we just WIN NOW!? I'm tired of hearing this "Let's continue to build, and develop stuff"

If I was London Fletcher, or Santana Moss and heard you guys saying stuff like this, I would slap you in your cheek like those old duelers did.

And what have we won with Moss and Fletcher? They're great pros, I like them a lot, but it's just time to turn the page.

What did we win with all the free agents that have come and gone over the years. One freakin' playoff game where the defense had to win the game for us. That's a fact, not a opinion.

Shanahan really isn't even the right guy for this job but that's another thread.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd rather the young guys play, get experience and let them grow. We're not going anywhere this year so why slow the development of young players? Why draft Austin if you're not going to give the guy a chance? And this is not the best wr's since the Posse. No way.

OK, I posted some of the WR rotations above...which was better than the current situation?


3 teams in 9 years makes a journeyman?

Andre Carter, congratulations, you're now a journeyman like London Fletcher.

[SmootSmack]

1. It's a preseason depth chart
2. What's the big scare about Gaffney being #2?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1. It's a preseason depth chart
2. What's the big scare about Gaffney being #2?

Not that there's a scare, but would be nice to see one of the young guys stepping up big time and grabbing some playing time. Gaffney's not bad, hey much much better than seeing Galloway.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1. It's a preseason depth chart
2. What's the big scare about Gaffney being #2?

Well they draft 50 wr's then play them with the first team and see what they can do. Why draft all these guys and hand a journeymen the #2 spot? Just makes me shake my head.

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well they draft 50 wr's then play them with the first team and see what they can do. Why draft all these guys and hand a journeymen the #2 spot? Just makes me shake my head.

Um...because he earned his spot?

That's what Shanny does. You have to earn your spot. I'm sure if a rookie was outplaying Jabar Gaffney then he'd be lower on the depth chart. They aren't. We all know that these guys have to EARN their way onto the football field. That's the tone Mike set last year, and that's the way it will be.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Um...because he earned his spot?

That's what Shanny does. You have to earn your spot. I'm sure if a rookie was outplaying Jabar Gaffney then he'd be lower on the depth chart. They aren't. We all know that these guys have to EARN their way onto the football field. That's the tone Mike set last year, and that's the way it will be.

well i wouldn't expect any of the younger guys to beat out Gafney in the first few weeks of camp.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Um...because he earned his spot?

That's what Shanny does. You have to earn your spot. I'm sure if a rookie was outplaying Jabar Gaffney then he'd be lower on the depth chart. They aren't. We all know that these guys have to EARN their way onto the football field. That's the tone Mike set last year, and that's the way it will be.

They already had competition between all the young receivers. Bringing in a guy like Gaffney doesn't create more competition, it ends all competition (for Gaffney's spot that is). It is counter to the NFLs established culture to bring in vets to compete for the spots held by first and second year players.

I agree with skinsfan69 about 75%. Gaffney is probably the third best receiver on the Redskins, at least until Hankerson has a few snaps under his belt. Maybe he's better than Moss, even. That's hard to say, but they're close in terms of numbers. So he "deserves" his spot if the be all end all is "winning games with the 2011 Redskins." You have a better shot of doing that with Jabar Gaffney than with Terrence Austin.

And for Mike Shanahan, this probably is the end game. But that's why you don't hire a head coach in his mid-fifties if you're trying to rebuild. And it's especially why you don't make that guy your personnel guy. Shanahan's not screwing up here: he knows exactly what he's doing. Problem is, we're all still going to be fans of this team in 2014, and Mike Shanahan couldn't care less about how successful that team will be.