Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[los panda]

between the two i chose rg3

[iRepDMV]

Robert Griffin iii for the win!

[los panda]

next time i have to come in here i'm crackin' skulls

is it too late to add a poll? a poll would be a nice visual aid

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Here's a question: We all agree that QB/WR/OL are the three biggest holes on the team right? So let's say we re-sign our main FAs Fletch/Davis. Now we have cap space. What if we go out and sign Dwayne Bowe, Eddie Royal, and Ben Grubbs. I think it's safe to say that makes our team better and fills two holes (RT is another story) NC Skins, would you still be against the 3 picks for 1 deal for RGIII? I think FA will have a big say in whether or not we trade up.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Here's a question: We all agree that QB/WR/OL are the three biggest holes on the team right? So let's say we re-sign our main FAs Fletch/Davis. Now we have cap space. What if we go out and sign Dwayne Bowe, Eddie Royal, and Ben Grubbs. I think it's safe to say that makes our team better and fills two holes (RT is another story) NC Skins, would you still be against the 3 picks for 1 deal for RGIII? I think FA will have a big say in whether or not we trade up.

Exactly. It baffles me that a fan base that has not had a franchise QB in almost 30 years is worried about 3 draft picks. We are still building the right way. Giving up 3 extra draft picks to solve a generation long QB problem does not mean that Vinny is coming back...

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by celts32

Exactly. It baffles me that a fan base that has not had a franchise QB in almost 30 years is worried about 3 draft picks. We are still building the right way. Giving up 3 extra draft picks to solve a generation long QB problem does not mean that Vinny is coming back...

It's not necessarily 3 extra picks. One or two of those picks could turn into a couple of more picks with trading down in future drafts and so forth. So, what appears to be only 3 extra high round picks could turn into 5 or 6 possible draft picks.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

It's not necessarily 3 extra picks. One or two of those picks could turn into a couple of more picks with trading down in future drafts and so forth. So, what appears to be only 3 extra high round picks could turn into 5 or 6 possible draft picks.

Thats highly speculative. A trade down is not always available when you want it. Regardless that's not really the point. I don't care how many picks it is...I want the QB problem solved LONG TERM. The teams that win consistently in this league are the ones with the franchise QB's. We need to get one if we want to be something more then a surprise playoff team every now and then.

Say we get Manning and become a playoff team drafting in the 20's for 2 years. When the 2 or 3 years are up we are right back where we started from with no QB and we have drafted so low that prospects as good as RG3 are out of our reach. At that same time with RG3 we could be off and running with our franchise QB who is just hitting his prime. In my opinion the Manning move only pays off if they win the Super Bowl with him and i am not willing to bank the future on it.

[SBXVII]

[QUOTE=celts32;884289]Thats highly speculative. A trade down is not always available when you want it. Regardless that's not really the point. I don't care how many picks it is...I want the QB problem solved LONG TERM. The teams that win consistently in this league are the ones with the franchise QB's. We need to get one if we want to be something more then a surprise playoff team every now and then.
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Just like trading up is just as speculative. There is a lot of unknowns,

What are the Rams asking for? not what we think it should be but what are the Rams asking for?

Are the Rams even willing to trade? maybe they want RGIII?

I think we all want the QB position locked up LONG TERM. But there is no guarentee with RGIII either. Which is why I'm not up for tossing 4+ picks at just one person in hopes he is and possibly later finding out he's not. Now if this was Drew Brees, or Eli Manning or an already established proven QB then I'm all in and would throw 4+ draft picks for the team to get him.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by celts32

Exactly. It baffles me that a fan base that has not had a franchise QB in almost 30 years is worried about 3 draft picks. We are still building the right way. Giving up 3 extra draft picks to solve a generation long QB problem does not mean that Vinny is coming back...

It baffles me that RGIII is the only QB who is or will turn out to be a franchise QB not only out of this draft but future drafts as well. We have not even seen him play. What happens when you draft him and he failed to grasp the footwork for back peddling from the center? Or fails to grasp the pro style of play?

I guess it's nice to have all those FA's, with no one but Grossman to throw to them.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

It baffles me that RGIII is the only QB who is or will turn out to be a franchise QB not only out of this draft but future drafts as well. We have not even seen him play. What happens when you draft him and he failed to grasp the footwork for back peddling from the center? Or fails to grasp the pro style of play?

I guess it's nice to have all those FA's, with no one but Grossman to throw to them.

To me Girffin looks like a young Michael Vick with a MUCH better head on his shoulders. I don't think he'll have a problem with his footwork or being under center. If Vick can do it then so can he. He'll have to take real deep drops like Vick does. I just think whoever gets him is going to have to design an offense like Philly has done. A lot of deep stuff and staying in shotgun a lot.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

To me Girffin looks like a young Michael Vick with a MUCH better head on his shoulders. I don't think he'll have a problem with his footwork or being under center. If Vick can do it then so can he. He'll have to take real deep drops like Vick does. I just think whoever gets him is going to have to design an offense like Philly has done. A lot of deep stuff and staying in shotgun a lot.

But we won't know until he actually tries. Also I'm sure experts said the same thing about Vince Young.

But yes you are right whoever takes him should and most likely will have to change their design to fit his tallents.

So now the big question.... would the Skins change their scheme or design to fit his abilities or would they force him to fit into their system?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Here's a question: We all agree that QB/WR/OL are the three biggest holes on the team right? So let's say we re-sign our main FAs Fletch/Davis. Now we have cap space. What if we go out and sign Dwayne Bowe, Eddie Royal, and Ben Grubbs. I think it's safe to say that makes our team better and fills two holes (RT is another story) NC Skins, would you still be against the 3 picks for 1 deal for RGIII? I think FA will have a big say in whether or not we trade up.

I think we will do some big things in FA, guys like bowe, Wayne and garcon could be guys to go get.. Vincent jax also. Add Manning or RG and we are in great shape

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think we will do some big things in FA, guys like bowe, Wayne and garcon could be guys to go get.. Vincent jax also. Add Manning or RG and we are in great shape

Don't like Garçon. Average WR who Manning made look better than he actually was. He's a dime a dozen guy.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Don't like Garçon. Average WR who Manning made look better than he actually was. He's a dime a dozen guy.

Who made him look better?

[Alvin Walton]

Hmmmm....
An old man that cant throw to his left or the next Randall Cunningham?
I'll go with Buddys boy.