WFT v. Packers Good Loss post-game

[skinsfaninok]

Washington's third down defense is statistically the second-worst in NFL history through 7 games since 1940.

JP

WOWZERS

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Washington's third down defense is statistically the second-worst in NFL history through 7 games since 1940.

JP

WOWZERS

This is a fact that cannot be mitigated or explained away. The extraordinary patience exhibited by Ron Rivera in this case is not a virtue. This level of defensive incompetence demands immediate personnel changes, either in players, coaches or both. Honestly, if Rivera fails to make swift, effective changes to the defense, his job should rightfully be on the line. As much as I would hate to see him lose his job, he is now fair game, IMO.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

This is a fact that cannot be mitigated or explained away. The extraordinary patience exhibited by Ron Rivera in this case is not a virtue. This level of defensive incompetence demands immediate personnel changes, either in players, coaches or both. Honestly, if Rivera fails to make swift, effective changes to the defense, his job should rightfully be on the line. As much as I would hate to see him lose his job, he is now fair game, IMO.

Some changes have come out of necessity - injuries, but I have to say it was nice to see Collins on the sideline at the start of the game on Sunday, and then when he was in there - making plays almost exclusively around the line of scrimmage. Dare I say it was his best game so far?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Some changes have come out of necessity - injuries, but I have to say it was nice to see Collins on the sideline at the start of the game on Sunday, and then when he was in there - making plays almost exclusively around the line of scrimmage. Dare I say it was his best game so far?

+1

He didn't play an amazing game - but I saw him a couple times making stops around the LOS. I'm good with it. Less chasing receivers down the field, more stopping runs for short gains.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Some changes have come out of necessity - injuries, but I have to say it was nice to see Collins on the sideline at the start of the game on Sunday, and then when he was in there - making plays almost exclusively around the line of scrimmage. Dare I say it was his best game so far?

Last off-season RR and his front office people tried to "fix" a young secondary that wasn't broken. They cut good young players and replaced them with older veterans who have failed to produce. The best of those young players was, of course, picked up by another team. Is that the way to build a team?

Now, they have turned a highly paid veteran player (Collins) into a role player.

RR has lost sight of what he was brought in to do which was to acquire and develop young players to build a perennial contender.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Last off-season RR and his front office people tried to "fix" a young secondary that wasn't broken. They cut good young players and replaced them with older veterans who have failed to produce. The best of those young players was, of course, picked up by another team. Is that the way to build a team?

Now, they have turned a highly paid veteran player (Collins) into a role player.

RR has lost sight of what he was brought in to do which was to acquire and develop young players to build a perennial contender.

Can we just stop it with all the Jimmy Moreland love already. The dude hasn't played one defensive snap for a Houston Texans team whose defense has given up the third most points in the NFL so far. He hasn't sniffed the field, with the exception of a handful of special teams reps...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Last off-season RR and his front office people tried to "fix" a young secondary that wasn't broken. They cut good young players and replaced them with older veterans who have failed to produce. The best of those young players was, of course, picked up by another team. Is that the way to build a team?

Now, they have turned a highly paid veteran player (Collins) into a role player.

RR has lost sight of what he was brought in to do which was to acquire and develop young players to build a perennial contender.

Im no fan of RR. But what was he supposed to do with Collins? It isn’t like he didn’t have plenty of chances. Dude sucks. He sucks less playing LB. Not sure what Rons options were there.

[SunnySide]

William Jackson III is a legit CB1 imo .. just out of sync so far. Hes here to stay for a few more years and I think he will win over fans.

St Juste seems to be a good 3R pick so far.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

William Jackson III is a legit CB1 imo .. just out of sync so far. Hes here to stay for a few more years and I think he will win over fans.

St Juste seems to be a good 3R pick so far.

Agree

[skinsfaninok]

ST Juste is already better than Fuller

[Meks]

The above post. He played decent to well here and tackled decent to well, too. Misguided release.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I liked him too, but in my opinion St. Juste is playing better through seven games than Jimmy was after two seasons. Jimmy had two years to develop into a better player, but right now he'd still be the #4 CB - on the bench just like he is in Houston.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I liked him too, but in my opinion St. Juste is playing better through seven games than Jimmy was after two seasons. Jimmy had two years to develop into a better player, but right now he'd still be the #4 CB - on the bench just like he is in Houston.

I think there are other players who made this roster riding the pine who bring nothing to the table. Moreland bought something to the table. Depth depth depth - quality depth all day.

[Chief X_Phackter]

They haven't performed well as of yet, but I like the quality and depth of this year's secondary compared to last years. Jimmy Moreland's presence on the 53 wouldn't change anything with regard to how good or bad this defense is.

I just find it a little 'weird' how much angst there is/was regarding his release. Of all the decisions to be up in arms about, that's probably one of the very last on my list.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They haven't performed well as of yet, but I like the quality and depth of this year's secondary compared to last years. Jimmy Moreland's presence on the 53 wouldn't change anything with regard to how good or bad this defense is.

I just find it a little 'weird' how much angst there is/was regarding his release. Of all the decisions to be up in arms about, [B]that's probably one of the very last on my list[/B].

If you want get mad about franchise setting back decisions look no further then Haskins draft pick; not only did it waste our 1st round pick but it also the next year blinded us from drafting a QB in a QB heavy draft. BTW we had the 2nd pick. I wonder if we had one in the draft if we still had taken CY because we were good with DH, thus passing over Burrows.