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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'd be dead serious about making the move for Rodgers.

AR and a couple of OL and we'd be ready to cook.

Just like Russ was ready to cook? He cooked Nathaniel Hackett right back out of town before the season was over.

Y'all want to bring Rodgers here, pay him $30+ million, trade away 5-6 draft picks, put him behind a worse o-line, with the same play caller, and expect different results?

No thanks. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm not falling for that again.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yeah, he'd be great behind this o-line, which would essentially be the same (or perhaps worse) next year if you trade away a bunch of picks and take on that contract.

He had the benefit of having the 3rd best o-line this year according to PFF and he's watching the playoffs just like we are. Our o-line has to be bottom 5-10... You think he won't get killed?

Besides that, Seattle received multiple quality players and five draft picks for RW. AR would garner that and more. Nobody can be serious about giving up all those assets AND taking on his $30+ million contract, if they are also serious about improving the entirety of the roster - which is desperately needed.

Rodgers had the 3rd best line but that didn't compensate for the lack of experienced receivers. While we do need to improve our o-line, a lot of the issues the o-line had this year had to do with the QB play (Wentz terrible decision-making and opposing defenses were not scare of TH passing).

Between Rodgers' passing ability, our WRs, and our running game, you could have 5 of us at the line and it probably wouldn't matter much.

[skinsfan69]

Bringing AR in here would be a terrible idea. He is past his prime. Can't even beat the Lions at home with everything on the line. He isn't the player he once was. He was just throwing the ball up for grabs cause the Lions were putting heat on him. He doesn't want to get hit anymore.

I can get 3,600 and 26 td's out of Howell. Sure I may have to deal with some young QB mistakes but so be it. I want a QB to build around, not a guy who's a diva and is thinking about retirement after every season.

Also AR is not coming here under any circumstances. He'd retire before he came here.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bringing AR in here would be a terrible idea. He is past his prime. Can't even beat the Lions at home with everything on the line. He isn't the player he once was. He was just throwing the ball up for grabs cause the Lions were putting heat on him. He doesn't want to get hit anymore.

I can get 3,600 and 26 td's out of Howell. Sure I may have to deal with some young QB mistakes but so be it. I want a QB to build around, not a guy who's a diva and is thinking about retirement after every season.

Also AR is not coming here under any circumstances. He'd retire before he came here.

Posted in the other chat but there is chatter that the Bears would listen to offers for Fields, I was hoping we would get him when he came out. He's a Bigger Lamar and better passer.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Posted in the other chat but there is chatter that the Bears would listen to offers for Fields, I was hoping we would get him when he came out. He's a Bigger Lamar and better passer.

My thing w/ Fields is he hasn't improved his passing in two years. He is too much of a running back playing QB, which is kind of surprising because he was such a good passer at Ohio State. Why isn't he developing?

If the Bears are willing to listen to offers then what does that tell you? They're not sold on him and they like Young or Stroud better. I didn't see the Bills trying to trade Josh Allen.

Just tired of the constant going after QB's on other teams. It hasn't worked. I'm going the route of the draft and I will keep drafting guys until I hit on one. And if and when I hit on one I'm still going to be drafting QB's.

IMO we just don't have the right guys in here to develop and draft QB's and the proof is in the pudding.

Maybe McVay misses DC and wants to come back here.. lol. We need a guy like that. Offense first and can develop QB's.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

My thing w/ Fields is he hasn't improved his passing in two years. He is too much of a running back playing QB, which is kind of surprising because he was such a good passer at Ohio State. Why isn't he developing?

If the Bears are willing to listen to offers then what does that tell you? They're not sold on him and they like Young or Stroud better. I didn't see the Bills trying to trade Josh Allen.

Just tired of the constant going after QB's on other teams. It hasn't worked. I'm going the route of the draft and I will keep drafting guys until I hit on one. And if and when I hit on one I'm still going to be drafting QB's.

IMO we just don't have the right guys in here to develop and draft QB's and the proof is in the pudding.

Maybe McVay misses DC and wants to come back here.. lol. We need a guy like that. Offense first and can develop QB's.

Some have said Greg Roman but if that’s the case we know his track history, he wants a Running QB and a heavy run game with it.

As far as QB goes I agree with you, if they don’t think Howell is the guy then draft someone at 16 and draft a damn QB every year until you hit on one.

Eventually Our luck has to go our way similar to the bills and bengals


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[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bringing AR in here would be a terrible idea. He is past his prime. Can't even beat the Lions at home with everything on the line. He isn't the player he once was. He was just throwing the ball up for grabs cause the Lions were putting heat on him. He doesn't want to get hit anymore.

I can get 3,600 and 26 td's out of Howell. Sure I may have to deal with some young QB mistakes but so be it. I want a QB to build around, not a guy who's a diva and is thinking about retirement after every season.

Also AR is not coming here under any circumstances. He'd retire before he came here.

Those are top 10 statistics. You feel that confident he will be that? I think he is some one that you can build around but not sure I'd expect that output.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Those are top 10 statistics. You feel that confident he will be that? I think he is some one that you can build around but not sure I'd expect that output.

In 17 games w/ our pass catchers? I don't see why those numbers can't be reached. That's like an average of 210 yards.

Howell only got one game, give him a full offseason and a ton of work in pre season. He has to have competition but he deserves a shot- otherwise why'd they draft him?

[AnonEmouse]

No to AR. Has nobody seen the lessons the Colts have repeatedly been teaching, going after aging/retread QBs past their prime? We have the bones of a good young roster, so why is everyone thinking that slotting in a 30+ guy that'll cost valuable picks and a huge salary is all we need? 2 years down the line we'll be no better off, wasted the prime of McLaurin and Dotson, have no cap space and no draft picks. Roll with Howell. Whoever the OC is next, he has the chance to mould a capable young guy, and if it doesn't pan out next year, likely we have a new owner, new staff and picks in hand to go get the right guy. Not to mention hopefully a good OL to put in front of him because we used those picks to rebuild it instead of trading for a used up vet.

[punch it in]

Rodgers man idk. Gonna be 40 when the season starts? We would give up alot and probably wind up with no oline, no ilb, no shut down corner. Go real strong after Slowik and let him work with Howell. Brock Purdy is absolutely killing it. If we do not pursue Rodgers we can build a D and an oline like they have by next year. If we pursue Rodgers he better win next year. Just look at the niners. You do not need an absolute stud at qb if you have a good D, run game, weapons, oline, and staff. We are very close to having that if we bring in Slowik, draft right and make some moves in FA. And we are not mortgaging our future. You bring in AR u better win it all in the next two years.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Rodgers man idk. Gonna be 40 when the season starts? We would give up alot and probably wind up with no oline, no ilb, no shut down corner. Go real strong after Slowik and let him work with Howell. Brock Purdy is absolutely killing it. If we do not pursue Rodgers we can build a D and an oline like they have by next year. If we pursue Rodgers he better win next year. Just look at the niners. You do not need an absolute stud at qb if you have a good D, run game, weapons, oline, and staff. We are very close to having that if we bring in Slowik, draft right and make some moves in FA. And we are not mortgaging our future. You bring in AR u better win it all in the next two years.

Chances of winning it all in the next 2 years with Rodgers is much higher than without him.

Yes it's a risk and a move all your chips to the center of the table type of move. But fuck it, go big.

That said I seriously doubt it would happen given the ownership situation.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Chances of winning it all in the next 2 years with Rodgers is much higher than without him.

Yes it's a risk and a move all your chips to the center of the table type of move. But fuck it, go big.

That said I seriously doubt it would happen given the ownership situation.

Id get on board if it happened and a championship would erase any cares about the future.

If we run with Howell they better damn well make all the right moves around him. Either way we would be in a better position at quarterback than this year.

[Chico23231]

I’d watch Mike Shula for OC. Don’t feel one way or the other, just experienced and there is a connection with Ron.

[njant]

bill obrien from alabama

[EdmundDorf]

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