2023 Divisional Round Thread

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Howell shouldn't have been a 5th round pick.. Two years ago he was mocked in the 1st rd and some had 1st overall.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...tchinson-no-1/

Howell dropped because the league fell in love with Malik Willis and Ridder..

That, and the Tarheels offense lost a lot of starting players in Howell's last year - top 2 WRs, top 2 RBs and majority of the Oline.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

That, and the Tarheels offense lost a lot of starting players in Howell's last year - top 2 WRs, top 2 RBs and majority of the Oline.

I would say if he couldn't put up the same quality stats he did a year before with his top playmakers then he isn't worth a first round. You expect your first round QB to elevate the play of those around him not vice versa. That is not to say he can't be a quality QB, but there was enough of a flag that 32 teams passed him up 4 times.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I would say if he couldn't put up the same quality stats he did a year before with his top playmakers then he isn't worth a first round. You expect your first round QB to elevate the play of those around him not vice versa. That is not to say he can't be a quality QB, but there was enough of a flag that 32 teams passed him up 4 times.

His numbers were just about the same though. Better in a couple areas, especially running.

Passed him up cus he is shorter than the average bear.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I would say if he couldn't put up the same quality stats he did a year before with his top playmakers then he isn't worth a first round. You expect your first round QB to elevate the play of those around him not vice versa. That is not to say he can't be a quality QB, but there was enough of a flag that 32 teams passed him up 4 times.

You hear that soooo much. I believe it is partly true, but it's a little overused in my opinion. Look at all the "top" QBs. They all have top playmakers. They aren't where they are in the playoffs, etc. without those top playmakers. They wouldn't be where they are with JAGs...

Mahomes - Kelce
Burrows - Chase
Hurts - Brown
Allen - Diggs
Cousins - Jefferson
Carr - Adams
Tagovailoa - Hill/Waddle

Look at Aaron Rodgers for example. He's a pretty good QB right? He barely got by this year without Adams. Watson came on as the season progressed, but there was only so much he could do with the receivers he had this year.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Howell shouldn't have been a 5th round pick.. Two years ago he was mocked in the 1st rd and some had 1st overall.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...tchinson-no-1/

Howell dropped because the league fell in love with Malik Willis and Ridder..

Go to the Sam Howell thread (last entry) and watch the 2 part video pre-draft evaluation by Kurt Warner.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Howell shouldn't have been a 5th round pick.. Two years ago he was mocked in the 1st rd and some had 1st overall.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...tchinson-no-1/

Howell dropped because the league fell in love with Malik Willis and Ridder..

No definitely not. People who think he is a project with a low ceiling did not watch him play in college. I would love for him and Brown to hit it off. Elevate each other’s play and have Terry, Dotson, Samuel, and Brown just giving opposing defenses nightmares.

[SunnySide]

Bit disappointed. Games werent as exciting as last weekend.

Next weekend should be an amazing Sunday, 2 great games.

[CrustyRedskin]

We can hash that crap out all summer. I'm just going to focus on laughing at the Cowboys today. 🤠

[sdskinsfan2001]

Wentz is gone and Heinicke is a FA. Since Turner is gone, he likely isn't coming back either.

So by default, we're adding 2 more QB's. I don't think anyone that wants Howell to be the starter in 2023 has said we shouldn't draft another QB somewhere in this draft.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Wentz is gone and Heinicke is a FA. Since Turner is gone, he likely isn't coming back either.

So by default, we're adding 2 more QB's. I don't think anyone that wants Howell to be the starter in 2023 has said we shouldn't draft another QB somewhere in this draft.

Right, people are acting like we want Sam to be the only quarterback on the roster. Lol. Again be specific when you wine about Sam being the projected starter. What are you giving up to make it hard for him to win the job? We are not getting Rodgers for league minimum lol. We are not getting Into the top 5 in the draft for a future 6th round pick. Everyone wants the best quarterback possible. Nobody is saying the only answer is Howell. But if you want someone like Rodgers or a top 5 pick u r paying through the nose for it. There is no stud coming in here to take Sams job that we won’t have to mortgage our future for.

[skinsfaninok]

Howell has way more talent than TH does and Wentz. I think we add a Vet for sure but unless we can some how land Rodgers or TB12 I'm good with Howell starting

[Chief X_Phackter]

I don't think you can put the franchise on hold because it appears the team will be sold. As much as you may not like or agree with some of the decisions made by the current regime, they are still in charge. Personally, I hope they continue to try to make the best decisions they can to make this team better, and that they have the resources to do so. I'm sure I won't agree with all of their decision this offseason, but I want them to keep trying. If what they do ends up working - great. If not, I am sure the new ownership will deal with them appropriately.

As I have previously said, if RR and company can get this team rolling next year and they are competitive in the Division/NFC, then I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will be dismissed.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I don't think you can put the franchise on hold because it appears the team will be sold. As much as you may not like or agree with some of the decisions made by the current regime, they are still in charge. Personally, I hope they continue to try to make the best decisions they can to make this team better, and that they have the resources to do so. I'm sure I won't agree with all of their decision this offseason, but I want them to keep trying. If what they do ends up working - great. If not, I am sure the new ownership will deal with them appropriately.

As I have previously said, if RR and company can get this team rolling next year and they are competitive in the Division/NFC, then I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will be dismissed.

We were a decent team last year, we can still make the playoffs by signing a few reasonably priced FA's and drafting well. I don't think we need to do anything extreme this year to move the team forwards. Franchise tag Payne, re-sign Holcomb, sign a few reasonably priced FA's, draft a LB, CB, and a couple OL, and we can be better next year.

[skinsfan69]

Man you guys want to talk about Sam Howell in every thread.. lol. Everyone always loves the unproven guy...

Anyway... Dak is garbage. He has to be feeling some heat today, as is McCarthy.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Man you guys want to talk about Sam Howell in every thread.. lol. Everyone always loves the unproven guy...

Anyway... Dak is garbage. He has to be feeling some heat today, as is McCarthy.

You know things are bad for Dak when the Cowpukes social media team is burning you in public:

https://twitter.com/dallascowboys/st...83701226176512