WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

^^^ He's right though.

No he’s not. Watson isn’t THAT good. How good he really is and what he’s worth have gotten more than silly. People starting to sound like Snyder at the negotiating table. He’s not worth 4 first round picks and Chase Young. He just isn’t.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

No he’s not. Watson isn’t THAT good. How good he really is and what he’s worth have gotten more than silly. People starting to sound like Snyder at the negotiating table. He’s not worth 4 first round picks and Chase Young. He just isn’t.

The max you could trade is 3. There are rules that prohibit draft picks beyond three years. So there is a ceiling here. If Houston dialed up and said next three first rounders I would do it.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

The max you could trade is 3. There are rules that prohibit draft picks beyond three years. So there is a ceiling here. If Houston dialed up and said next three first rounders I would do it.

Ok. I wouldn’t.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Completely understandable. I just see a glass ceiling without a QB, but building in the draft and finding a guy works too if you find him.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Interesting stat

Over the last 20 years the Colts have had a 1st round pick (2 of those being the #1 overall pick) start at QB for 17 of those 20 years.

They have 1 Super bowl to show for it.

Wentz will be the 4th 1st round pick the Colts will start at QB since 2000.

That's nuts

In that same 20 years we have started at some point during those seasons a 1st round pick 17 out of those 20 years. the only 3 years we did not were Kirk's years.

Of those first round picks two were number one overall (George and Smith) and two others were second overall (McNabb and RGIII).

Zero Super Bowls and zero playoff wins.

"Now that's nuts"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...g_quarterbacks

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Completely understandable. I just see a glass ceiling without a QB, but building in the draft and finding a guy works too if you find him.

Yeah I get the if part for sure. My biggest problem is if you trade 3 #1s for Watson and he gets Smithed/Theismanned on the first play of the season...where are you then?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Yeah I get the if part for sure. My biggest problem is if you trade 3 #1s for Watson and he gets Smithed/Theismanned on the first play of the season...where are you then?

Sorry but that is a silly argument and that can happen with anyone. Injuries are part of the game, and that should not stop you from getting a young elite QB that will likely make your team into a playoff team.

[mredskins]

I honestly probably do a 1st a 2nd and CY for Watson.

Watson would have a bigger impact then CY on this franchise.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Sorry but that is a silly argument and that can happen with anyone. Injuries are part of the game, and that should not stop you from getting a young elite QB that will likely make your team into a playoff team.

It’s not a silly argument. It’s one of the reasons you don’t make trades like that. It’s BECAUSE it can happen to anyone on any play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I honestly probably do a 1st a 2nd and CY for Watson.

Watson would have a bigger impact then CY on this franchise.

yeah except you'd need to add a lot more to that offer

[skinsfaninok]

From NFL Now: #Raiders QB Marcus Mariota has generated a lot of interest from teams, but the max value of his contract has been an issue for teams. Trade talk has slowed considerably. Could he be eventually released?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

It’s not a silly argument. It’s one of the reasons you don’t make trades like that. It’s BECAUSE it can happen to anyone on any play.

Yes, but if Watson gets hurt, he's not going to be hurt for three years.

And I agree that it is a lot to give up, but if you are a team like Washington, which has a lot of pieces in place, and will have a lot of key talented players on rookie or inexpensive contracts, you can afford a trade like this.

Every potential move you make, whether it is drafting or acquiring a FA, has some degree of risk.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

From NFL Now: #Raiders QB Marcus Mariota has generated a lot of interest from teams, but the max value of his contract has been an issue for teams. Trade talk has slowed considerably. Could he be eventually released?

That's my bet. LV can't afford him, and teams aren't going to pay him $22m plus trade assets for him. It would be better for him if he was released, better for the Raiders (cap wise), and better for the team that eventually signs him in free agency.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

It’s not a silly argument. It’s one of the reasons you don’t make trades like that. It’s BECAUSE it can happen to anyone on any play.

I agree it’s not silly at all .. look at it like this , if we had a top five pick and we selected say Fields and he got hurt and could not play for several seasons .. we would be out of one pick for that time .. if we give up 2 number ones and a second and starting player for a QB and same thing happens what are we out of ? Best not to trade away too much or as some say put all your eggs in one basket ... there is a huge difference ..

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

From NFL Now: #Raiders QB Marcus Mariota has generated a lot of interest from teams, but the max value of his contract has been an issue for teams. Trade talk has slowed considerably. Could he be eventually released?

Football Team will wait them out for sure. No need to make that trade. I would trade for Darnold though. I will confess I don't know much about him other than when he tore up the Redskins in 2019. I was listening the Sheehan and he said alot of "football people" what ever that means, I am assuming scouts, personnel and GMs, are high on Darnold.