Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[SmootSmack]

I will say this. Every team, even the best, has some friction. The best teams are the ones that keep it relatively irrelevant

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I will say this. Every team, even the best, has some friction. The best teams are the ones that keep it relatively irrelevant

The Giants are the exception. This is the first year in ages that I don't remember "Coughlin should be fired!" talk at the mid-point of the season, right before they scrape together a playoff or Super Bowl run. Now that they're on a mini-losing streak, maybe they'll start showing up.

Every year it's a mutiny with their fans and media (NY media...it's to be expected).

[mredskins]

No matter how you feel about MS and company. Too many sources are reporting that there are issues at the R Park and if you are true Skins fan that is just sad to hear. I was really hoping we were on the right path this go around.

[MTK]

I wonder if there has ever been a losing team that doesn't have internal strife. Nobody likes to lose. It raises the level of stress and tension in any organization. Winning some games would quickly get things back in order.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wonder if there has ever been a losing team that doesn't have internal strife. Nobody likes to lose. It raises the level of stress and tension in any organization. Winning some games would quickly get things back in order.

How many losing teams with this kind of internal strife rebound under the same regime/leadership?

Kinda gets back to that "how long do you give them" debate.

[RGIII]

I told you (pl.) so.

[53Fan]

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[53Fan]

RG3 and a ton of money could make Gruden and a lot of coaches change their minds about coming here.

[53Fan]

I'm pretty tired of hiring retreads myself. At least for HC. Seems like they win a SB then take a few years off waiting to be paid like they're the best or waiting for the perfect situation to come along.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I'm pretty tired of hiring retreads myself. At least for HC. Seems like they win a SB then take a few years off waiting to be paid like they're the best or waiting for the perfect situation to come along.

Bill Cower is a Marty Schottenheimer disciple who may be past his prime. If anyone recalls, the Pittsburgh Steelers went 7-9 the year after they won SB40. Jon Gruden would make a good coach but we have to look at why he was fired in Tampa Bay. The year he was fired the Bucs started off 9-3 and finished 9-7 to miss the playoffs. We need to be careful of who we want as our coach in the future.

I'd want a young coach like a John and Jim Harbaugh. Not hire a coach that has won SBs in the past. It always almost doesn't work out. Just look at George Seifert.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Bill Cower is a Marty Schottenheimer disciple who may be past his prime. If anyone recalls, the Pittsburgh Steelers went 7-9 the year after they won SB40. Jon Gruden would make a good coach but we have to look at why he was fired in Tampa Bay. The year he was fired the Bucs started off 9-3 and finished 9-7 to miss the playoffs. We need to be careful of who we want as our coach in the future.

I'd want a young coach like a John and Jim Harbaugh. Not hire a coach that has won SBs in the past. QIt always almost doesn't work out. Just look at George Seifert.

I agree. I'm really interested in guys like Roman. The OC for SF that SFREDSKIN brought up.

[Paintrain]

If there is a move made against MS (which I still doubt until his contract is up for renewal barring a disaster in 2013) you have to consider the personnel implications of changing coaches, especially on offense. Let's just look at some players who probably won't fit into other schemes (power running game, vertical passing game, etc.) as much as they do our current scheme:
Alfred Morris-One cut, downhill, zone runner. He probably wouldn't be as effective in getting chunk yardage in a power game and wouldn't fit much at all in a spread passing game relying on speed and quickness.
Stieger, Chester, Monty-Playing pretty well as a unit but probably won't fit into a scheme requiring power blocking or pass blocking for a 5-7 step dropback passing game or spread passing game. Even T. Williams to a lesser extent whose strengths are his mobility and athleticism may not be as effective in a power scheme.
Morgan, Hankerson, Garcon- Arguments exist about how productive they are now but they are best suited for a WCO type, YAC passing game, not a spread (none are particularly quick) or vertical (none have blazing speed) passing attack.

Those are just off the top of my head but it's just to make a point that just changing the leadership isn't a magical cure to what ails this team.

While I get the frustration and angst with the results of the current regime, one of the reasons the Giants, Steelers and Packers remain competitive and at or near the top of the league every year is because they have philosophies that the organization is committed to and they draft and coach to those philosophies, not changing them every 2-3 years to suit a new master.

[53Fan]

Well you do have guys out there like Roman who seems to be able to adapt his offense to his personell pretty well. He made David Carr look good..coached Luck at Stanford and has done a wonderful job with Alex Smith and SF's offense. Even Gibbs changed his style to a point when JKC told him to start running Riggins.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wonder if there has ever been a losing team that doesn't have internal strife. Nobody likes to lose. It raises the level of stress and tension in any organization. Winning some games would quickly get things back in order.

Agreed. Beat the damn birds before we are a dang laughing stock. Finish the year strong - possible to be playing the Gints on Monday nite in a couple weeks for huge division crown implications and lets save the sorting out for the off season. I mean according to HTTR 24-7 even Haz is finishing the year so we are stuck with what we have. Beat the birds. Baby steps.

[Paintrain]

What am I missing on Roman? For all of the love he's getting on here, SF is ranked lower than us in all statistical categories offensively. Their defense is top 3 but I never watch Niner games and think, 'wow I wish our offense was like that!'