Name Your Core Redskins

12thMan · 01-04-2007, 05:32 PM

I've been thinking about this since all the articles have been written about the internal challenges we've gone through this year.

I love every player on the current team....Archuletta included

But I was thinking if I absolutely had to start over with the current group we have and build from there, who would I keep.

Again, I'm making this decision based on what I perceive as a core Skin and not neccessarily their talent or what I've seen on the field.

I would have to start with Jon Jansen. I think this guy truly bleeds burgundy and gold.

Chris Samuels.
Rock Cartwright.
Mike Sellers.
Ethan Albright.
Randy Thomas
LaDell Betts
Ade Jimoh
Chris Cooley
Jason Campbell
Sean Taylor
Santana Moss
Reynaldo Wynn
Phillip Daniels
Derrick Dockery

Yep, that's it.

Hog1 · 01-04-2007, 05:40 PM

Good list, Jansen, who else EVER played with TWO broken thumbs. Add Portis, he's a baller

RobH4413 · 01-04-2007, 05:41 PM

Marcus Washington?

12thMan · 01-04-2007, 05:43 PM

I left those two out for some reason. I think Portis could easily be on that list...I just left him off for some reason.

gabe1984 · 01-04-2007, 05:44 PM

How come B. Lloyd isn't on that list?!?!

12thMan · 01-04-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe1984

How come B. Lloyd isn't on that list?!?!

He is, the sh**T list!

gabe1984 · 01-04-2007, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thMan

He is, the sh**T list!

haha, good one!!!!!

mooby · 01-04-2007, 05:47 PM

Honestly, I think core Redskins is a loosely used term with Gibbs. I mean, when you hear teammates talk about Antonio Pierce and Ryan Clark, they say they were actually "core Redskins". Clark was widely popular in the locker room. I don't actually believe that Gibbs wouldn't give up one of his core Redskins for a player he thought was better.

firstdown · 01-04-2007, 05:48 PM

Ryan Hoaq
David Patten
Sam Wilder

12thMan · 01-04-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

Honestly, I think core Redskins is a loosely used term with Gibbs. I mean, when you hear teammates talk about Antonio Pierce and Ryan Clark, they say they were actually "core Redskins". Clark was widely popular in the locker room. I don't actually believe that Gibbs wouldn't give up one of his core Redskins for a player he thought was better.

That's why it's my list and not Joe's

Redskins_P · 01-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Randy Thomas
Jon Jansen
Chris Samuels
Clinton Portis
Santana Moss
Chris Cooley
Derrick Dockery
Marcus Washington
Shawn Springs
Sean Taylor
Phillip Daniels
Renaldo Wynn
Cornelius Griffin
Rock Cartwright

*Vinny Cerrato*

Big C · 01-04-2007, 06:02 PM

Randy Thomas
Jon Jansen
Chris Samuels
Clinton Portis
Santana Moss
Chris Cooley
Derrick Dockery
Marcus Washington
Phillip Daniels
Renaldo Wynn
Rock Cartwright
Ladell Betts
Antwaan Randle El
Casey Rabach

Beemnseven · 01-04-2007, 06:10 PM

Hard not to include any of the offensive line, though Rabach at times seems like an outcast. The other four though, they're beginning to make their own history right next to the Hogs if you ask me.

But too often, I think we get hung up on names that are nothing more than a familiarity to us as fans. When you actually get down to examination of their contribution on the field though, it gets difficult -- objectivity loses out.

Take Renaldo Wynn for instance. He seems to be a fan favorite, and for the life of me I cannot figure out why. People talk about him as the "locker room leader" and BINGO! ... he gets the tag of a 'core Redskin' and his complete and utter lack of any playmaking ability whatsoever gets tossed out the window, and gets a pass. Check these numbers: in the last two seasons ('05 & '06) he has played in 15 games each year, has 30 and 14 tackles for the seasons respectively, and one half sack. He'd have serious trouble making the roster of any other team in the league.

Someone please explain that one to me.

Redskins_P · 01-04-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big C

Randy Thomas
Jon Jansen
Chris Samuels
Clinton Portis
Santana Moss
Chris Cooley
Derrick Dockery
Marcus Washington
Phillip Daniels
Renaldo Wynn
Rock Cartwright
Ladell Betts
Antwaan Randle El
Casey Rabach

Nice. Forgot to add Randle El and Ladell to my list. They definitely should be included.

Bill B · 01-04-2007, 06:22 PM

I thought I heard Gibbs say in an interview that James Thrash was a core Redskin?

Also what exactly does a Core redskin mean? Is it a term to describe players who have outstanding work ethic and lead by example? Or is it a term to mean guys we absolutely have to have on our team to win the games? Couldn't stating that you are a core Redskin make some of the lesser known guys feel a little slighted? I don't see other teams terming their players as core guys - why do the Skins do this?

01-04-2007, 05:32 PM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Name Your Core Redskins I've been thinking about this since all the articles have been written about the internal challenges we've gone through this year. I love every player on the current team....Archuletta included But I was thinking if I absolutely had to start over with the current group we have and build from there, who would I keep. Again, I'm making this decision based on what I perceive as a core Skin and not neccessarily their talent or what I've seen on the field. I would have to start with Jon Jansen. I think this guy truly bleeds burgundy and gold. Chris Samuels. Rock Cartwright. Mike Sellers. Ethan Albright. Randy Thomas LaDell Betts Ade Jimoh Chris Cooley Jason Campbell Sean Taylor Santana Moss Reynaldo Wynn Phillip Daniels Derrick Dockery Yep, that's it.

01-04-2007, 05:40 PM	#2
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Good list, Jansen, who else EVER played with TWO broken thumbs. Add Portis, he's a baller __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-04-2007, 05:41 PM	#3
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Marcus Washington? __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

01-04-2007, 05:43 PM	#4
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Name Your Core Redskins I left those two out for some reason. I think Portis could easily be on that list...I just left him off for some reason.

01-04-2007, 05:44 PM	#5
gabe1984 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Re: Name Your Core Redskins How come B. Lloyd isn't on that list?!?!

01-04-2007, 05:47 PM	#8
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Honestly, I think core Redskins is a loosely used term with Gibbs. I mean, when you hear teammates talk about Antonio Pierce and Ryan Clark, they say they were actually "core Redskins". Clark was widely popular in the locker room. I don't actually believe that Gibbs wouldn't give up one of his core Redskins for a player he thought was better.

01-04-2007, 05:48 PM	#9
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Ryan Hoaq David Patten Sam Wilder

01-04-2007, 05:55 PM	#11
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Randy Thomas Jon Jansen Chris Samuels Clinton Portis Santana Moss Chris Cooley Derrick Dockery Marcus Washington Shawn Springs Sean Taylor Phillip Daniels Renaldo Wynn Cornelius Griffin Rock Cartwright Vinny Cerrato

01-04-2007, 06:02 PM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Randy Thomas Jon Jansen Chris Samuels Clinton Portis Santana Moss Chris Cooley Derrick Dockery Marcus Washington Phillip Daniels Renaldo Wynn Rock Cartwright Ladell Betts Antwaan Randle El Casey Rabach __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

01-04-2007, 06:10 PM	#13
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Name Your Core Redskins Hard not to include any of the offensive line, though Rabach at times seems like an outcast. The other four though, they're beginning to make their own history right next to the Hogs if you ask me. But too often, I think we get hung up on names that are nothing more than a familiarity to us as fans. When you actually get down to examination of their contribution on the field though, it gets difficult -- objectivity loses out. Take Renaldo Wynn for instance. He seems to be a fan favorite, and for the life of me I cannot figure out why. People talk about him as the "locker room leader" and BINGO! ... he gets the tag of a 'core Redskin' and his complete and utter lack of any playmaking ability whatsoever gets tossed out the window, and gets a pass. Check these numbers: in the last two seasons ('05 & '06) he has played in 15 games each year, has 30 and 14 tackles for the seasons respectively, and one half sack. He'd have serious trouble making the roster of any other team in the league. Someone please explain that one to me.

01-04-2007, 06:22 PM	#15
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: Name Your Core Redskins I thought I heard Gibbs say in an interview that James Thrash was a core Redskin? Also what exactly does a Core redskin mean? Is it a term to describe players who have outstanding work ethic and lead by example? Or is it a term to mean guys we absolutely have to have on our team to win the games? Couldn't stating that you are a core Redskin make some of the lesser known guys feel a little slighted? I don't see other teams terming their players as core guys - why do the Skins do this?

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